"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why Women Love Badboys

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Badboys are fun as long as there are no responsibilities involved - the "good" women are gone once accountability comes into play.

The "badboys" grow-up and become the drunkards, the drug addicts, the thieves, the murderers and all those who are disdainable in a normal functioning society
You tell 'em PRL! Like I've always said. "Bad Boys" are bad for a reason. They are BAD! I'll admit I went through the phase, and learned my lesson the hard way. Now if they even look like they might be a little bad around the edges, I run so fast I don't even leave footprints.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Very true, Sart

No doubt that being is what it's all about...

BUT ...

There is some validity to the "fake it until you make it" approach. You've heard of the "Big Lie," right? Hitler used it to control a nation before he believed too many of his own lies. It's like working the "Big Lie" on oneself. Eventually one does gravitate toward becoming what he repeatedly tells himself he is.

Nonetheless, the "bad boy" traits in that laundry list do tend to trigger attraction in women. But, as Water Tiger pointed out, the more experieced women can recognize the truly bad tendencies, and make tracks.

But one need not be a fvckup to develop the most essential of those traits.
 

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Originally posted by WaterTiger
You tell 'em PRL! Like I've always said. "Bad Boys" are bad for a reason. They are BAD! I'll admit I went through the phase, and learned my lesson the hard way. Now if they even look like they might be a little bad around the edges, I run so fast I don't even leave footprints.
Yeah now, you're 42 years old lol
 

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I don't buy it. You don't need to be a bad boy. The key to getting any girl is to be nice to them BUT also to act like you aren't trying to get with them. It works nearly every time.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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In short, women like men with strong wills. You don't have to be bad just as long as you stand up for what you believe and what you want, and show no fear in doing so.
 

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Originally posted by WaterTiger
You tell 'em PRL! Like I've always said. "Bad Boys" are bad for a reason. They are BAD! I'll admit I went through the phase, and learned my lesson the hard way. Now if they even look like they might be a little bad around the edges, I run so fast I don't even leave footprints.
yeah NOW when you are fat and have no more chances with the hot and cool guys NOW you are when you are loose and had many ****s in you NOW you want a nice guy come on girl it is nothing personal i dont know you but i hate it when such comments confuse the newbies here.


to all others, the list shouldn't be interpreted in "you dont need to be bad blablablablbalalbla can still be nice and have confidence blablbal" WRONG WRONG WRONG. hot women usually prefer guys that represent the best of the gen pool which means 1.)good looks 2.)physical strenght 3.)mental strength -3)a)intelligence - not with phylosophie and stuff but with making good and fast decisions and being able to get a good job.3)b)a selfish attidude that only really cares for the man himself AND for the woman/family. and yeah the society calls that "bad"

of course most bad boys don't care for their women and have no jobs or no good jobs and that is the only reason why they get dumped but only after the woman has putted up with A LOT of crap. but often it is the bad boy who dumps the girl b/c he is tired of her and just gets a new pvssy.
 

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Originally posted by WaterTiger
You tell 'em PRL! Like I've always said. "Bad Boys" are bad for a reason. They are BAD! I'll admit I went through the phase, and learned my lesson the hard way. Now if they even look like they might be a little bad around the edges, I run so fast I don't even leave footprints.
i'll bet you would love to meet a guy who had all those attractive traits but at the same time wasn't bad.

Bad around the edges can still be very attractive to a woman. It isn't something that you should run away from. What about a former badboy who has learned his life lessons the hard way?

I have a fair number of friends who used to be really bad. In fact I used to be one of them. I have one friend who went to jail for a while. When he came out he was reformed, much stronger, and ended up with a hot ass chick. The girls love him because he looks bad but isn't that way anymore.

I have other friends who droped out of high school because of all the crap they got into. These guys are reformed now and are trying to get their education. The women they have are just totaly hot and very f-cukable.

These guys might not have much in terms of a job but they do have women that are just plain amazing. In fact the women that the educated and respectfull guys in my office have are quite frankly ugly compared to their women.

I honestly think that you just can't get a really hot girl unless you share some of the qualties that a bad boy has.

Sure PL is right that a lot of these guys become losers later in life. What he forgot was that at some point they are forced to face reality and most of the time they do smarten up at around 26 or so.

So don't judge a guy because he appears to be a bit bad.
 

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There one very important missed though:

"We end up in a trail court with 3 or more children by different men. Our self-esteems have been taken from us, and we think little of ourselves. Oh we should've went for that nice guy or two."
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
There one very important missed though:

"We end up in a trail court with 3 or more children by different men. Our self-esteems have been taken from us, and we think little of ourselves. Oh we should've went for that nice guy or two."
A woman like this is usless trash anyway. The guys who gave her those childern used her like an object because she acted like one.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Am I a bad boy if I throw a rubber at someones head during a lecture?
 

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can't fake it & social aspect

I figure this will kill the thread a little. A nice boy cant act like a bad boy but be good inside....wont work.
Here, here.

And there is the society aspect too; if I;m a drug dealer part of her might like that, but also she's aware of the social aspect - drug dealers might be excluded from her social circle.
 

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How about that woman held hostage in Atlanta by the rapist who shot the judge and deputies, etc, etc?

Seems she could have escaped earlier but did not. She claims it was because she was worried he would kill somebody else or kill himself.

The chumps believe it.. in truth she was attracted to the DANGER and excitement.. and the $$ she is now going to get.

Women do love bad boys, I have seen it myself. Women have hung on me after I got into bar fights (don't do that anymore!) or broken up fights between some big guys. I have seen it all...they just love it. Or at least the hoes love it.

DIetzcoi
 

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Bad boys that women love are nothing more then people who have a lot of negative qualities, but at the pivotal moments know when to bite their pride and make a woman feel good about herself.

A charamatic person is a person who has a lot of positive traits, and usually most of the time he makes a woman feel good about herself.

The lone common denoimanater is "he makes a woman feel good about herself". Once you learn this you can simply be who the hell you want to be (be it bad boy, loner, charmer, rebel) and have women love you.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by dietzcoi
How about that woman held hostage in Atlanta by the rapist who shot the judge and deputies, etc, etc?

Seems she could have escaped earlier but did not. She claims it was because she was worried he would kill somebody else or kill himself.

The chumps believe it.. in truth she was attracted to the DANGER and excitement.. and the $$ she is now going to get.

Women do love bad boys, I have seen it myself. Women have hung on me after I got into bar fights (don't do that anymore!) or broken up fights between some big guys. I have seen it all...they just love it. Or at least the hoes love it.

DIetzcoi
If anyone who has an IQ higher than 100 believe in what this guy just said, please commit yourself in a woman's studies course immediately.
 

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IQ???

This is the sort of post I would actually lurve to hear a woman explain. I have an IQ above 100 and I believe what he said...I have seen t a lot as well.

Two things to add....1. I don't think EVERY woman loves it and 2. Define bad boy. You guys have bad boy down as a violent, drug swallowing criminal. Women love cop shows, Clint Eastwood flicks, Vin Diesel, you know, um, Han Solo. They are attracted to the rogue, the guy they cant hold down.

Its only perception. Remember when I had that run in with that dude at that club? Women were all over me, multiple women. Why? If it isn't due to some bad boy perception, then why?
 

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I am a lawyer by trade. I have gone to prison to visit clients. I have seen hordes of women, some very attractive, wait for hours just to see some bad ass locked up for years and still these women keep on coming back.

So, yes the evidence is there. A large number of women are drawn to bad boys.
 

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In grade school I was always getting into trouble and into fights with the other boys. In the process, I had half of the girls in my classes in love with me and following me around.

Then, high school came, and I became a shy withdrawn boy who studied hard and got straight A's. All the girls avoided me like the plague.

Then, in college, I started working out, bulked up, rode a motorcycle and adopted a carefree attitude and all the girls started chasing me again.

There is no question in my mind that most women, especially the hot ones, find bad boy qualities attractive. My life experience demonstrates that.
 

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Originally posted by sapphire
In grade school I was always getting into trouble and into fights with the other boys. In the process, I had half of the girls in my classes in love with me and following me around.

Then, high school came, and I became a shy withdrawn boy who studied hard and got straight A's. All the girls avoided me like the plague.

Then, in college, I started working out, bulked up, rode a motorcycle and adopted a carefree attitude and all the girls started chasing me again.

There is no question in my mind that most women, especially the hot ones, find bad boy qualities attractive. My life experience demonstrates that.
It was the opposite from what i saw growing up. The bad boys that always got detention in grade school were avoided by the girls but then high school came and they became the most popular.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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