"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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why the **** would she say this?

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I had a good talk with my hot (but *****) of a room mate as we haven't been getting on and we went for coffee and I asked her straight up what is that you don't like about me? and she told me there is nothing, it's just i'm not into you physically... fair enough so could someone please explain why she was twirling her hair in her fingers and looking dead into my eyes when she said this?.

Interesting too that she kept bringing up all of my dates and played this little sad routine as she thought i was going to give a ticket to a show to one of the girls I hang out with...bascially i just want to **** her and I sense that we both need it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Go to the gym or for a run. How is your body anyway?

Shes sending mixed signals im not sure i cant answer this question. i want to know the answer but. Someone answer this question NOW or i will Nija chop you.
 

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Originally posted by Black_Italian
Go to the gym or for a run. How is your body anyway?

Shes sending mixed signals im not sure i cant answer this question. i want to know the answer but. Someone answer this question NOW or i will Nija chop you.
she has been sending me mixed signals for months and it ****s me off...her actions are often different from her words and I know when a chick is flirting with me or is jealous, I think I might see what happens with the other cuties and get my roomie really drunk and just go for it...there have been so many times where I have just wanted to tear her clothes off and ravage her she is a sexy *****.

:woo:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by Black_Italian
ignore her.
it's kind of hard when we live together...how do I do it exactly?...I mean I have to say hello and talk to her about flat things right?
 

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Hound and Black are both right. She knows you want her, you should ignore her a little.
 

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Originally posted by runnincircles
Hound and Black are both right. She knows you want her, you should ignore her a little.
it's kind of hard when we live together...how do I do it exactly?...I mean I have to say hello and talk to her about flat things right?

please tell me how...
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
- you will be in no worse a state than the one your in now -
He could easily be in a worse state than he is now - she's his room-mate. If it all goes t!ts up when he makes a move then there's going to be repercussions.

I'd check out one of the friend-zone posts (Senor Fingers' is a good one) for pointers on getting out of this one.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I been reading you previous post you got an obbsession with you roomate. Ah well atleast you cant technically stalk her.

Anyway werent you the one i told about the massage thing for your roomate?
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Huh - JUST FCUKING DO!!!
You may be right, who knows.

Personally I think charging in right now is just going to freak her out. She knows she can have him. He needs to raise his worth in her eyes.
 

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I'm a bit of a self reliance junky in that I believe the true path to peace of mind is through the inside out. You're first mistake......"What do you think of me" ie. "tell me what I need to change about myself".....I don't understand WHY you people keep setting yourself up like this, I never ask girls to characterize, label, give opinions on who I am and what I do. Why? BECAUSE IT DOESN"T MATTER!!!!!!!!!!! WHO CARES!!!!!!!!! Look at all the negative emotions that get stirred up inside you as a result of asking this. How bad did that hurt your inner game? Think for yourself. The bonus to doing this is that when people offer their opinions on me (uninvited) I just don't care.....good OR bad. Like when people say to me "Fonz you give good advice, but I think you're an AFC cus you don't put out FR's or post pics, you're full of **** when it comes to that." That just goes in one ear and out the other, I do what i wanna do. I'm not much of a bragger (for me doing that in the past has always been followed by some sort of karma donkeykick). So if I did take time to post my gf's pic or talk about how many girls I walked up to and asked out it would be purely to see what you guys have to say about it. If I think a girl's hot I'll date her. If I'm in the mood to sarge I will. I'm not some happy-go-lucky sunshine socialite......sometimes I'm and sometimes I'm sad. My point: Stop asking girls/people whats wrong with you....you can figure that out yourself if you look hard enough.
 

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Naw....I'm not obsessed( If I was I don't think I would be dating other girls right? I am realyl attracted to her though and I can't help that...

and I know it will happen (the grasshopper just has to be patient;) ...I actually got out a movie last night and sent her a text (as her music was so loud, she didn't hear my knocking) anyways she came down right after I sent that text and said I will be there in about 5 minutes and you know what I noticed I could tell that she had just put perfume on...why? she wasn't going out anywhere... and her body langauge around me has never once been negative.

I only come here to hear other views and too get good advice.

Anyways I forgot to mention that I had actually asked her to move out and she was using her feminine charms to sway me...She knows exactly what she is doing and the whole thing about the tickes to the show and her saying "oh well I thought you were going to give to one of your girls" so I haven't said whether she is getting it or not and enjoy stringing her along just as she does me.

She also expressed that she cares about me by something that she said last night.
 
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also can someone PLEASE tell me the best way to ignore her?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It would seem that my room mate is jealous and she seems to get upset or offended easily at little things I say,she also referred to the girls I have been dating as "interesting people" :confused: and when I tried to talk to her about one of them she wouldn't look me in the eye and her body langauge would be one of disinterest.

She also still flirts with me a great deal and last night was fairly crazy in a good way and she has had me up about talking about or bringin up things in the past but she does the exact same thing.

Any thoughts here?...It's a lust thing with this girl it really is...
 

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The best way to ignore her is to meet other girls. And, oh yeah, bring some of them home while your roomate is there.

Also, you can play with your roommate too. Walk around in a loose bathrobe while ignoring her and **** like that.

When you talk to your roommate, steer toward topics of you and these other women: ask for advice, etc. You know, "I met this girl, it went such and such, she behaved such and such. Do you think she's into me? What's my next move? How long should I wait?"

Act like you are falling for some chick, and keep talking about how great she is.

Be overheard talking on the phone to chicks, having a good time, making plans, cracking jokes, sex talk, etc.
 

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now heres the scoop...
you got this roomate who feels you arent good enough to date however wants you to still want her and give her attention...

get other girls to start calling your house asap

i dont care if they are friends or cousins or someone calling to ask if you can do their homework. she doesnt need to know who they are or what they want.

start dating other girls.

before you know it, she will want you because she cant have you and you wont even like her any more.

that and start telling people shes your little sister.
 

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This one is so easy it's not even funny. She either likes or did like you but views you as a bit of a man wh*re and won't touch you as a result.

As your roommate she's going to know all about your dating habits. If she sees you slutting around she's not going to give you a chance to do her that way, too.

Her behavior is so obvious...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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