"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Why shouldn't you have a relationship with party girl

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I know that everyone says that you can't have a relationship with a girl you fvcked after you met her in the club, but I don't remember nor understand the reason for it....can you guys elaborate? It may be that they are somewhat "wilder" than the ones who don't even go to clubs but isn't that a little exaggerated claim that you should avoid them, because I know there are many who want to have fun but when it's time for a relationship, they will behave with the respect level that is required in a working relationship.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I met my ex in a club and took her back to her place first night (technically morning - was 2pm the next day after an after after party). She was loyal as a dog, even against her better judgement and her friends hating me for hitting on one of them and generally being a prick.

You really can’t judge a girl on that. My ex said she’d waited a long time for sex last time and the guy was terrible so she didn’t want to wait with me. I believe that story.
 

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They are more often than not to be in a h0e phase in their life. Maybe you'll get lucky. But they are used to just having fun and not attaching to anyone.
 

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It's all rooted in probabilities. There's no guarantees in any male/female dynamics but you could reduce risk.

Is a party girl more suited for an LTR?

Or is a normal girl more suitable?

Do the math.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Depends on the girl, as a general rule people who do certain things are probably fvcked up, but just like not every stripper is a single mom with daddy issues and plenty of porn stars were middle class white girls with perfectly fine job prospects, the exceptions don't make it safe as a rule

basically, just be wary of what kind of girl you're dealing with, irresponsible and obsessed with partying/alcohol/drugs/hookups = ****ing disaster waiting to happen,

a fun person that likes to have a good time but has their head screwed on straight = great girlfriend.

A girl who doesn't do anything fun at all would be boring, so finding a straight edge couch potato would be awful, so don't go too far to the wrong extreme either (i know girls who have absolutely nothing to talk about other than schoolwork, studying or their menial jobs. I don't like talking to them)
 

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If I reach into a group of killers to find a highly moral caring person, I might be fishing in the wrong place, huh?
 

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Guys as we are on the subject of party girls..

How would you feel for example if your girlfriend wanted to to hit the bars and clubs with her female friends every other week or so?

Would it bother you, that your GF is out and about, getting hit on, by HORNY dudes, while she is in a semi intoxicated state?

Would you consider dating and entering into a relationship with a chick who frequents the bars?

Here is my opinion.. Maybe she is loyal.. Maybe your game is great, and things are good, so she would not cheat..

But it's only a matter of time... Your game and her interest level is not ALWAYS going be sky high.

Bar girls will ALWAYS have the availability of fresh Cocck, and she will have the TEMPTATION too.

Just a matter of time, till one SERIOUSLY charming MoFO comes along in the club, and YOUR chick is down on her knees in the mens toilets.

It's a risk i am not willing to take!
 

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irlfriend wanted to to hit the bars and clubs with her female friends every other week or so?

Would it bother you, that your GF is out and about, getting hit on, by HORNY dudes, while she is in a semi intoxicated state?
Depends on the girl, not every girl is topless dancing on a table or snorting crack off a stripper after 3 drinks

It also depends on how serious the relationship is. It's not a huge deal if it's just a casual/normal relationship because it won't be the end of the world if you gotta go ghost on her for a while or dump her and replace her
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Dat girl...public property.:confused:

ewww..
 

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Honestly it really depends on the girl in question. I was a "party girl" at first glance before getting married because I love the scene, love to dance, enjoy socializing etc., but I also was ambitious, hard working, work hard/play hard but yet with boundaries & feminine nature & so forth. Under all the party girl veneer was the character that I was raised with, which is actually conservative & family oriented.

I ended up marrying the man who owned the nightclub I frequented...and I was completely loyal even when things were really tough. Again because of the character underneath the veneer.

So don't assume things. If you like a chick, get to know her. You may not know by appearances what kind of person you are dealing with.

Solid women sometimes like to have a good time too...and that doesn't necessarily mean they are not good women or have bad values. Always observe people as individuals based on actions. If you paint with an overly broad brush you might miss someone good.
 

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Honestly it really depends on the girl in question. I was a "party girl" at first glance before getting married because I love the scene, love to dance, enjoy socializing etc., but I also was ambitious, hard working, work hard/play hard but yet with boundaries & feminine nature & so forth. Under all the party girl veneer was the character that I was raised with, which is actually conservative & family oriented.

I ended up marrying the man who owned the nightclub I frequented...and I was completely loyal even when things were really tough. Again because of the character underneath the veneer.

So don't assume things. If you like a chick, get to know her. You may not know by appearances what kind of person you are dealing with.

Solid women sometimes like to have a good time too...and that doesn't necessarily mean they are not good women or have bad values. Always observe people as individuals based on actions. If you paint with an overly broad brush you might miss someone good.

As someone posted before... It's a chance and a risk.. She may NOT cheat at all, then again she might just take the opportunity of riding NEW cokc if its easily and freely available.

Are you willing to take 50/50 chance on a BAR girl?

Also people completely underestimate the power of ALCOHOL in an environment such as a club or bar


You get a bunch of intoxicated horny people together under one roof... ANYTHING can happen.

Do you realise how many people cheat while drunk, then blame the alcohol.

Even the most loyal chick, can turn into A raging *****.
 

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Dated a party chick two years that was loyal as ****. Was it worth it? Hell no but she was loyal. If you can get an attractive party chick to commit to a relationship she’s probably really into you. Being loyal is only a small piece of the puzzle though...and your gf should do a hell of a lot more than just ride your ****.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Guys as we are on the subject of party girls..

How would you feel for example if your girlfriend wanted to to hit the bars and clubs with her female friends every other week or so?

Would it bother you, that your GF is out and about, getting hit on, by HORNY dudes, while she is in a semi intoxicated state?

Would you consider dating and entering into a relationship with a chick who frequents the bars?

Here is my opinion.. Maybe she is loyal.. Maybe your game is great, and things are good, so she would not cheat..

But it's only a matter of time... Your game and her interest level is not ALWAYS going be sky high.

Bar girls will ALWAYS have the availability of fresh Cocck, and she will have the TEMPTATION too.

Just a matter of time, till one SERIOUSLY charming MoFO comes along in the club, and YOUR chick is down on her knees in the mens toilets.

It's a risk i am not willing to take!
The op asked if you would date a party girl. The way I look at is if a girl wants to be with me she will give up that lifestyle. It’s rare that happens though most can’t but it does happen. Nothing turns me off more than a chick who does coke though.
 

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Even the most loyal chick, can turn into A raging *****.
Yeah but, if all it takes is some alcohol to turn her into a slvt that'll cheat on you 24/7, then it doesn't matter if she's a party girl or not because there's plenty of other places with alcohol for disaster to strike lol.
 

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Honestly it really depends on the girl in question. I was a "party girl" at first glance before getting married because I love the scene, love to dance, enjoy socializing etc., but I also was ambitious, hard working, work hard/play hard but yet with boundaries & feminine nature & so forth. Under all the party girl veneer was the character that I was raised with, which is actually conservative & family oriented.

I ended up marrying the man who owned the nightclub I frequented...and I was completely loyal even when things were really tough. Again because of the character underneath the veneer.

So don't assume things. If you like a chick, get to know her. You may not know by appearances what kind of person you are dealing with.

Solid women sometimes like to have a good time too...and that doesn't necessarily mean they are not good women or have bad values. Always observe people as individuals based on actions. If you paint with an overly broad brush you might miss someone good.
Married the "owner" of the nightclub, another example of women love a man with value and probably had beautiful women chasing him, similar to these ugly male music DJ's I see dating Hb9 and 10's.
 

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I know that everyone says that you can't have a relationship with a girl you fvcked after you met her in the club, but I don't remember nor understand the reason for it....can you guys elaborate? It may be that they are somewhat "wilder" than the ones who don't even go to clubs but isn't that a little exaggerated claim that you should avoid them, because I know there are many who want to have fun but when it's time for a relationship, they will behave with the respect level that is required in a working relationship.
You should have a relationship with the girl if you like her, but perhaps a casual one instead of an LTR. Party girls are great wing girls that are great for social proof and meeting more women.

Think outside the box!
 

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Married the "owner" of the nightclub, another example of women love a man with value and probably had beautiful women chasing him, similar to these ugly male music DJ's I see dating Hb9 and 10's.
The women might see a handsome dude.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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