tmpgstx
Master Don Juan
Bigfoot, women want a sensitive jerk .. think that is a good way to sum it up. Women want to see a little 'edge' or testosterone, but also want a sensitive guy who listens and cares for people.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
"Why Nice Guys Fail with Women"
- Thread starter BigFoot
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
very well put :cheer:
tmpgstx
Master Don Juan
Thanks .. i got it from articles written by women - lol! Who says women don't give good advice for attraction?
penkitten
Master Don Juan
wasnt me since i am a woman hahaha
tmpgstx
Master Don Juan
One woman said that women generally want to see a little bit of a 'pitbull' in their guy.
Another woman was explaining attraction and why women often go for guys that are jerks syndrome. She said many are jerks, but show enough sensitivity and generally care for other people. She called them sensitive bastards.
I think it's just mainly important not to be a doormat. You can be nice, but don't let anyone take advantage of you.
Another woman was explaining attraction and why women often go for guys that are jerks syndrome. She said many are jerks, but show enough sensitivity and generally care for other people. She called them sensitive bastards.
I think it's just mainly important not to be a doormat. You can be nice, but don't let anyone take advantage of you.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Cheat_LBJ
Don Juan
It only is valid with respect to how he goes about dealing with women.
I know plenty of guys who are real characters, treat other people like crap, always about "what's in it for me," etc. But when it comes to women, they immediately switch over to 'anything for you' mode.
The hardest piece of programming to overcome for most AFCs (including myself) is the old lesson your mother beat into you that you should treat women with respect.
THAT is the great lie we are all raised with. Women respond most favorably to being treated like they are nothing special. The minute they know you've put them on a pedestal, they move on, because they have nothing to prove to themselves regarding you. They already have you.
-CLBJ
That's how i see it. It's not about "aiming for jerk-like", it's about "moving away from being a doormat/pushover"
I'm lucky that my mother was fairly neutral on this. She pro-her-children. E.g. she expects my sister's boyfriend to do things for her, but if i were busy with something and i was seeing someone and they wanted me for something, it's "no, don't drop everything for her".
Look what this AFC wrote on the subject! This is the problem with society and it's views on gender roles when it applies to dating.
"So what is a nice guy? Well nice guys are romantics with lyrical souls. Nice guys are generally over looked due to the lack of bulging muscles or fast cars. Nice guys won't pretend to be romantic just to get you into the sack. Nice guys are shy, that's right shy, they may go talk to you but won't ask for your number due to the lack of self esteem that history has given them. You definitely won't see a nice guy whistling at you in the mall."
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
This guy goes on and on.. I had to stop reading and look for a bucket to puke in.
http://www.realpics.net/view.article.php?article_id=41
"So what is a nice guy? Well nice guys are romantics with lyrical souls. Nice guys are generally over looked due to the lack of bulging muscles or fast cars. Nice guys won't pretend to be romantic just to get you into the sack. Nice guys are shy, that's right shy, they may go talk to you but won't ask for your number due to the lack of self esteem that history has given them. You definitely won't see a nice guy whistling at you in the mall."
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
This guy goes on and on.. I had to stop reading and look for a bucket to puke in.
http://www.realpics.net/view.article.php?article_id=41
Good LORD. Could this guy embody the essence of a complete wussbag any more? This is the kind of blog a 20-something virgin would post--"I'm going to pity my way into your pretty little panties."
What's worse is some women left comments at the bottom of the article, gushing about it and hence reinforcing this kind of thought process.
Poor guy--he's gonna think he's on the right track.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Oh, and I like this comment that some girl left:
That's old news, I know--but it's worth repeating after reading all that schlock.
A perfect reminder of why we need to pay attention to what women DO, and not what they SAY.
That's old news, I know--but it's worth repeating after reading all that schlock.