"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Why I fear rejection after the approach (no one talks about this aspect!)

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It's not that I fear the girls will think I'm a douche - who cares? They'll go home and you'll be forgotten by the time they wake up the next day.

The real fear I have is this:

My FRIENDS will see me getting blown out, and this will damage my pimp reputation!

Many of them, lacking the balls to do the approach, will rationalise that I suck with women...

Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I like to maintain the impression amongst my peer group that I'm mostly rejection-free and good with women.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Simple, on paper anyway . . Shed that facade and be yourself, and stop trying to control your friends perceptions. Long way from the boards to reality though, I know.
 
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A good friend will admire you for approaching girls. You have to be selective though. He will say to himself "damn, that fuvker's got some balls, and he doesn't give fuvk what people think"
 
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Well, deep down he may admire you. But prepare to be clowned beyond belief as he revels in the safety of his ego.

His words: "Hahahaha, you got DISSED, bro! You did it all wrong!"
His ego: "YES! He is at my level still! I AM STILL OK. SUFFER!"
His sub-conscious: "Wow. That took some balls."
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Maybe, but eventually all your approaching will pay off and they will see you with some quality chicks, so who will be laughing then? Keep your eye on the long term goal, but be ready when opportunities come up sooner than expected.
 
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Trust me, I was one of those people that laughed at the people that at least made an attempt. I could preserve my ego and make fun of those dudes getting blown out. But guess what? Then I saw those same dudes score with chicks that I liked. Who got the last laugh?

Just be yourself and don't worry about what others think. No matter how hard you try to control your rep, people will know the real you. Most people aren't stupid. They'll know if you're a pimp daddy or just pretending to be one.
 
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Some of my friends used to be condescending and that would make me nervous about approaching, but even they will agree it's better to approach and get blown out than be a *****...a good friend will laugh at your misfortune (as well you should too, just shake it off and laugh about it) but acknowledge a good effort and realize you've got balls. If your friend would legitimately laugh at you for approaching and getting rejected and think less of you afterwards...umm...either you'd have to really suck or just have sh*tty friends.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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this is the only thing I fear,"Them already being taken"

Thats it, but I go for it anyway, but after I find out they're taken, I try to end the convo as soon as possible.
 
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Switch up your group of friends, at least when you go out to meet girls. I can't stand that competitive bullsh*t, everyone I roll with if you go and talk to a chick when you return to the group you get a pat on the back and a "good job bro" no matter if you got her number or you got a drink thrown in your face. Stay positive, be with positive people and its much easier to have a good time.
 
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Ya me and my group usually just point out hot chicks and play Rock,Paper Scissors to see who will be the 1st one to attempt to get her number or some "play"
 
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Friends are over rated. Like many myths (i.e. 'true love'/'altruism'/even 'god'), some things are too good to be true.
 
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Friends are over rated. Like many myths (i.e. 'true love'/'altruism'/even 'god'), some things are too good to be true.
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Are you a hermit?

Friends are immense, friends are like the "Hate something, change something, make something better" advert from Honda. They are so annoyingly good to have around.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Luminescence said:
Friends are over rated. Like many myths (i.e. 'true love'/'altruism'/even 'god'), some things are too good to be true.
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No, friends are necessary. Without friends, life sucks. You're alone.

Get better friends.
 
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