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Why everyone always blames the guy if he fails with women

ChristopherColumbus

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I always blame the man because men are supposed to lead the dating dance. If she's not interested from the get-go, it never gets anywhere so it can't be her fault.

100% of the time - he either picked the wrong chick (poor screening), or he did something wrong (bad game / too many mistakes).
I'd add that the 'pornification' of our culture has done much to induce in the mass of men a delusional fantasy that the hottie is attainable... or even desirable. It's a vicious feed-back loop - men watch porn because they can't get a woman like that.. but it wires their brain to think they can. A lot of 'pick up' advice just further fuels the fantasy.

THAT SAID, if men were to screen more realistically, and for a woman who actually might be more attractive in having some substance to her, then he is going to have more success.. and less that sense of failure.

Rather than striving to meet some objective criteria in order to satiate our desire, it can be useful to re-assess and restrain that subjective desire. Buddhists take this approach to the extreme.
 

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I'd add that the 'pornification' of our culture has done much to induce in the mass of men a delusional fantasy that the hottie is attainable... or even desirable. It's a vicious feed-back loop - men watch porn because they can't get a woman like that.. but it wires their brain to think they can.
I don't even think it's that these women aren't attainable. The majority of your porn starlets aren't, particularly anything special, beyond the make up and filters. You've got allot with banging bodies, but a subpar face or vice versa in porn, but a little hair and makeup can make it appear otherwise. The big names in porn are just that, because they possess both and allot of times it's just that they can either fvck like the devil or do chit other girls won't. Just about any guy with his chit together and half way decent looks can land one of afor mentioned types. I'm with you on the media selling an ideal of perfection that doesn't exist, but in reality, a man comes across these women everyday, all day, but just doesn't know it, outside all the filters, hair, makeup and outfits. On the other side of the coin, we live in a celebrity culture, where every little 6 and 7 can fake it, till she makes it and plenty of guys are eating that chit up, inflating their market value, but when she's seen for exactly as she is, so the cycle continues. A bunch of suckers, selling their souls chasing a glittered up, polished turd.
 

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Like player supreme said, average dudes is ok. Most guys are average. If you have a decent job, a car a pad and some decent clothes you are ahead of the game.
 

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Best response. Should have this written on the wall at the foot of the bed. Instant motivation.
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I believe it’s 100% the mans fault. I believe if you have a life; whatever you experience, positive or negative is 100% that individuals fault. Man or woman. Doesn’t matter.
And why? It’s more empowering and at the end of the day one is authoring there own existence. Your life is your book. What’s the point of blaming anyone but your own self? It’s useless. It’s exhaustive. It’s victimhood. It’s immobilization.

Everything is my fault. Yes. And just because I believe this, I’m not a defeatest; it will actually make me incredibly strong. That’s the goal. To be like steel; body, mind, spirit.

MrMuscles, you’re a kid. You inflate your own ego on every post which shows you’re weak, you’re in need of something external. You have no idea what you’re talking about. You criticize people here and point fingers every direction. You’re backed in your own corner like a dog whose been abused for years and can’t trust anything; let alone his own self.
You truly would be better to slow your role, walk over to a mirror and have a good long look at yourself and then sit in a room and do some introspection.

You arrived at this forum for a reason. To seek something which is not whole in you. So do that; seek it, rather than fight it. You must be tired. I understand.
You’re learning right now; and that’s what not to do. and that’s where you’re at. That’s where you’re at. Approach this forum with humility and you’ll start to see where you’re actually at in your journey to self actualization.

You mentioned men here are 40’s and 50’s who are washed up and don’t have any credible knowledge because of their age and they didn’t get the women they desired. Even if that is so, they are your elders, and have experience and knowledge which you could greatly heed. Everyone is your teacher, they are teaching you what to do or not to do. Their perspective is their truth. It’s valuable either way, whether or not you agree.

The problem here in this thread with you, is you think you have this whole thing mastered, like you’re tapped in to the truth of what is reality. But you’re not. You’re guzzling down your own drink and being washed away in your own self delusions.

Remember one thing kid; the self proclaimed master, has mastered nothing.
The true master is never a master, because knows he’s always the student.
Choose to humble yourself and know you know nothing.
But do get to know yourself.
And that returns us to the point. 100% of everything in your life is your fault. Because your life is your responsibility. And your responsibilities are 100% yours.

"100% of everything in your life is your fault." , this sentence is wrong and yet you keep repeating it and this what i meant when i asked this questions, guys acting tough and claiming they've got women under control but when the slightest issue arises suddenly they start blaming themselves .... what about women arent they human beings ? dont they have a mind of their own and can make decisions ? how come its your fault she refused to date you or wanted to play you and she shouldnt be responsible yet when she decided to steal from her workplace that was her decision and she got int a lot of sh*T for doing it .... why so many men blame themselves when they dont have to , whats the deal with that .

you can never control everything in your life and a lot of things are not your fault, if you were born in a first world country to poor parents living in a rented apartment you will sure as heck be poor for a long period of your life till you get an education adn start making money, even if you get a job most colleges cost a fortune and there is nothing you can do about that ......... can you ever marry into a royal family ? forget that, can you date and marry a girl from a high social class from a presitgeous family when you are barely middle class ? no you can't do that, can you ever be get the respect you want if your dad was a garbage man ? no, no matter how great he was people will always look down on you .... a lot of things are not your fault, i work my asz off to reach 1/4 of what my wealthy friends had since they were 10 , my uncle is a well respected doctor and is rich af, people were more than happy marrying into his family, when someone was born looking like brad pitt or leondardo decaprion with great body no matter what he eats and one was born looking like jack black , is that their fault as well ?

the guys i talked about give sh*t advice (No offense) they claim to bang chicks left and right yet as i said no wife, no gf, no quality girls to be found anywhere near them and when they do get laid its either through tinder, dating sites or they admit they hit the bars and clubs and prey on drunk girls regardless of how drunk they are, that doesnt take special training or advice a couple of beers and youre good to go, i will be far more impressed if they banged normal every, young and attractive chickswho are 100% sober, but that rarely happens and when it does the chicks are in their 40s or 50s .

iam not perfect by any means, i dont know it all and iam only 23 , but claiming to know more than me or acting like your ways are right and mine are wrong wont work, the advice givin on here is either unrealistic or is very specific for a certain group of people and wont work for most others .

the number one mistake anyone on here makes is they start assuming stuff, he said this so he must be that but in reality no, that is rarely the case, i have been described by all kinds of bad words on this forum but in reality none of that applies to me in fact if we meet in real life iam probably more fun and confident that most guys on here that claim to know more than me and , girls should take responsibilty for they actions if they fvck up , as simple as that .
 

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100% of everything in your life is your fault." ,
Spot on!
what about women arent they human beings ?
Certainly.
dont they have a mind of their own and can make decisions ?
Yup.
how come its your fault she refused to date you
It's not. That's not about you. It's on her.
or wanted to play you
You should screen better.
yet when she decided to steal from her workplace that was her decision and she got int a lot of sh*T for doing it .... why so many men blame themselves when they dont have to , whats the deal with that .
Not sure who here is blaming themselves for thieving women.
you can never control everything in your life and a lot of things are not your fault, if you were born in a first world country to poor parents living in a rented apartment you will sure as heck be poor for a long period of your life till you get an education adn start making money, even if you get a job most colleges cost a fortune and there is nothing you can do about that ..
Cry us a handful. That's life. Take the bull by the horns or quit, admit defeat and relinquish power.
can you ever marry into a royal family ?
Meghan Markle?
can you ever be get the respect you want if your dad was a garbage man ?
Yup. Takes all types. Work is work.
no matter how great he was people will always look down on you ...
Again, this isn't on you. Who wants the respect of those types in the first place? Personally, I wouldn't p!ss in their ear if their brain was on fire.
leondardo decaprion w
Have you seen this guy off screen lately? I wouldn't pay to look like Brad Pitt neither.
they admit they hit the bars and clubs and prey on drunk girls regardless of how drunk they are, that doesnt take special training or advice a couple of beers and youre good to go
Sure as $hit I'll be hammered myself 100% of the time and it does take skill. The competition is super thick in the club/bar/party scene. Every male in these scenarios are looking for the same damm thing, at the same damm time and bringing their A-game. As far as LMS goes, there is an extremely good chance a guy will get "outclassed" frequently, no matter how good a guy has his chit together, considering you are aiming high and putting yourself in the proximity to compete for finer females.
i will be far more impressed if they banged normal every, young and attractive chickswho are 100%
Do this too. Same skill set, less aggressive, more nuance, faster calibration, less margin for error, higher stakes, higher reward.
i dont know it all
We know you don't, you just think you do.
acting like your ways are right and mine are wrong wont work,
Working quite well.
in fact if we meet in real life iam probably more fun and confident that most guys on here
Very seriously doubt this, but whatever you have to tell yourself.
girls should take responsibilty for they actions if they fvck up , as simple as that
Yes, they should. Simple as that.
 
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i kinda agree with him, a lot of women nowadays are f*Cked up and think they ar worth than their actual worth , yet they make bad gfs, mothers, cant cook and lack the basic skills of a partner, not to mention have f*cked a number of guys perior to meeting you .
yeap. that's the market right now. this is a result of this lame female equality movement.
 
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