"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Why even try? Why not just enjoy the date as you please?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
That was the premise of the entire thread. Forget spending time learning how to seduce women and learning the right words to say, when you could be spending that same time focusing on your success. Whatever you succeed in, women are always attracted to that. You can say all the wrong things but be successful and those wrongs become right.
Women follow success. When you are successful, you dont need game, they do. They come to you.
Kinda sorta. You have a point. But not exactly if you already aspire for said aspiration and said aspiration also attracts secondary aspiration, its like killing two birds with one stone.
I already aspired to be rich. But the loneliness kicked in on the journey, forcing me to learn DJ rules on how to get that companion. Now im realizing I never shouldve stopped. Im going back to aspiration 1 because aspiration 1 also obtains aspiration 2 at the same time.
Now you could say, what if I never aspired to be rich and only am seeking to be rich for aspiration 2? Then yes you have a point. Thats still trying.
But that also brings me to the second part of this thread. Why try at all?
Why try to think of the right words to say to make her smile or....
think of the right move to turn her on or...
remember that right line to close the deal??
Why exert so much effort in doing things that doesnt represent who you are?
Be a ****y arrogant humorous jerk? What if thats not who you are? Arent you forcing or trying to create a fake persona to attract women? Thats too much effort to me.
If you want to tell a corny joke and she doesnt think its funny, she isnt the one anyway. Im tired of trying to make people laugh. If my presence doesnt already seduce, why do I need to learn other ways to seduce her? She should already be seduced by my presence alone.
Because its not about what you got but how you reflect it. You can lie and say you have million dollars but until you actually have a million dollars, you wont know how to reflect it. Women are dumb but like bittcches, they can smell money, and they can smell when a man has it or he doesnt.
And I never said anything was a magic bullet, but mastering anything in life increases your chances by a significant percentage.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Exactly either they like you or they dont.
Lets say at a 4, 2% of the girls in the world like you for who you are.
But the more success you make, the more you increase those odds.
Take the same 4 and give him 15 million dollars.
He now has 46% of the girls in the world initially attracted to him.
He raises his chances significantly.
Of course to get the other 54%, you would need to be a total package. Money, looks, status, game/character. You would need everything. But we arent trying to attract every girl in the world, just increase the chances of finding one of them.
What if you arent naturally a cool down to earth fun guy?
What if you are a hot headed, weirdo, who likes deep conversation? Less women will be attracted to you. You can try to create that persona but eventually youll get tired of pretending to be who you are not. Youll get tired of dumbing yourself down, and you will be trying to please someone else too hard and you wouldnt even get any personal pleasure from it in the long run.
You didnt have money but you had character. Thats why you attracted so many women. But for the guys who have no character, your advice doesnt work.
If you a scumbag, learning game will only hide who you truly are and you end up with some girl who isnt even compatible to you. But if you just be yourself, youll get that scumbag girl who is just as scummy as you.
DJ game only works if you want a change. DJ taught me the most valuable lesson that I already knew, and thats "Either she likes you or she doesnt".
DJ laws is not a university, its more of a therapy session than anything. It doesnt teach you anything more than what you already know or knew. Its more of a reaffirmation or a reminder than anything else. And for that I say thank you DJ. You reminded me who I was already.
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Agreed. Although it can take a bit of effort to conjure up the balls; like with any form of taking risks, it's crucial to get used to it and do it alot.
It's funny because for most guys all the variables are pretty clear - they know what they want (at least sex), they know solid theory on how to get it and they know the true risk is rather low (you won't die). But still they get caught up in decision paralysis (fear), and the woman will immediately recognize it.
All this is really about staying focused on what you want, and intuitive decision-making. Which is a skill that can be learned.
You can't tell a 30 year old socially awkward virgin to just focus on making money. He'll be able to buy expensive wh0res but he sure as hell won't have any women who are sincerely interested in him. Teach him game and not only will he be better with women, but he'll be a better man in general.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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I call bull****
Yeah, if you are attractive, socially confident, and have the time you can get laid. Simple probability says that the number of 9s and 10s out there are pretty slim. If that is you then game and theory isn't really necessary for you.
Yes, if you have the time and income go to the gym. If you have a racing metabolism you will always be skinny. If you are fat, not being fat will help you get laid. Being well built will help but it is not the be all and end all.
If you are naturally unnatractive, the gym won't help. Having a squillion dollars won't help.
Having social/sexual confidence will help.
There are tips and techniques in the DJ bible that might help. All they are doing is making you SEEM socially/sexually confident.
Social/sexual confidence is what the DJ bible is all about. Going to the gym, making money, getting that nose job all might give you that confidence but they are just tools.
That guy busy making a squillion dollars. His wife is busy fvcking the pool cleaner.
For those guys learning all this stuff for the first time. Forget all the tips and techniques. Forget the supermodel dream ( for now).
Just ask yourself what would a socially/sexually confident person do.... And do it. They would flirt, they would believe that women could've interested in them and they would make their sexual intention clear, using eye contact and touch.
Because they are socially/sexually confident they don't care if a woman rejects them. There will be others.
Money, muscles, job, looks are not as important as social/sexual confidence IMVHO.