Why Don't You Guys Just Simply Ask A Hot Babe Out

[KoalaKing]

I can't understand why you all want to number close and neg hit gorgeous girls when it is easier and quicker to simply ask the girl out on a date.

All I ever read about on here are the likes of, Neil Strauss, Tyler Durden, Mystery, and of course my favourite, Swinggcat.

These guys are just human beings, they were born as babies like everyone else, yet you all seem to WORSHIP them like they are GOD's.

Tyler Durden picks up the hottest babes for one main reason, he is prepared to approach them and ask them out, it is as simple as that.

You guys make seducing pretty girls seem as complex as winning lotto, when it isn't that difficult at all.

Many hot babes won't want you, many of them don't want me, and many don't want, Tyler Durden, either, that is the unfortunate reality, but if you are prepared to lay down your pride and ask them out, you will soon hit the jackpot and have the hot babe of your desires in your arms, just take some bloo-dy risks.

 

[Kings_royalty]

but if you are prepared to lay down your pride and ask them out, you will soon hit the jackpot and have the hot babe of your desires in your arms, just take some bloo-dy risks.

That's just it, most guys can't take that type of rejection, their egos can't handle it. So, they look to guys like T.D. and Swinggcat for some guidance, or ways around their fears.

 

[SamePendo]

It's like Ronaldinho talking about how easy it is to score a goal, you just kick the ball in. It all comes down to action, I agree, but don't come here asking guys to stop learning the things they are learning. You are 30+, many of the guys here were born into a world where social skills aren't that important anymore.

And yes, there are single women, but many of the BEAUTIFUL women have boyfriends, and for women, having a boyfriend means nothing except some dude giving her emotional support and some kissin' action. A boyfriend means ****. Read this thread.
At least read until you reach Pook's second post. It changed my view on the subject. You defending the "institution of (boyfriendism)" speaks on how you make out too much about women, them being emotional creatures.

 

[KoalaKing]

I wouldn't say that picking up hot babes comes easy, but it comes a lot easier if you approach them, talk for a few minutes, then ask them out for a date, and if they refuse which is certain to happen many times if you do it a lot, you continue to do this until a hot babe eventually accepts the offer, you will soon have a hot babe with you.

I don't think that, Tyler Durden, would be devastated when a hot babe rejects his advances, he would take it on the chin, and move on to another hot babe until he got what he was after.

It is the fear of rejection and the failure to accept it that stops the greater majority of guys alluring a gorgeous girl, they won't make the first move. :yes:

 

[The Juan and only]

It is the fear of rejection and the failure to accept it that stops the greater majority of guys alluring a gorgeous girl, they won't make the first move. :yes:

Ok, and that's not what the bible says? that's not what everyone who's been here a while eventually realises? that's not what confidence creates?

I am so sick of 2-month-morons (as I call them), who arrive, view a few retarded posts, then start degrading the forum and generalising about members. Know what the hell you are talking about before you post.

Yes, this forum has gone downhill in recent times, and yes there is a shortage of good posts. Your opinion is valued, BUT, be willing to except that you aren't always right, or (if you are) that the issue has been discussed 100s of times before.

 

[KoalaKing]

Ok, and that's not what the bible says? that's not what everyone who's been here a while eventually realises? that's not what confidence creates?

I am so sick of 2-month-morons (as I call them), who arrive, view a few retarded posts, then start degrading the forum and generalising about members. Know what the hell you are talking about before you post.

Yes, this forum has gone downhill in recent times, and yes there is a shortage of good posts. Your opinion is valued, BUT, be willing to except that you aren't always right, or (if you are) that the issue has been discussed 100s of times before.

I have never claimed to be right all of the time, I have been attracted to gorgeous girls now for over 25 years, so I have some experience when it comes to alluring attractive woman.

I don't really care about what other DJ's believe, I will read their posts, and take what I feel is worth something to me from them, but I won't follow them like sheep.

I can only reveal what has worked for me in my own personal life, these things may not work for you, but they might for someone else.

I do know one thing and that is if you won't approach girls and ask them out then they are not going to just jump straight into your lap, if you are too affraid too throw a basketball then you will never be a champion basketball player, you must start somewhere.

Does it really matter if a guy has been a member on this forum for one hour or five years, it doesn't to me.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I'm with you KK. Most times I don't get a woman's number until after the first or second date. At that time it's pretty obvious that she's interested and won't flake; the very things that guys are most concerned about.

 

[KoalaKing]

I'm with you KK. Most times I don't get a woman's number until after the first or second date. At that time it's pretty obvious that she's interested and won't flake; the very things that guys are most concerned about.

It is GREAT to be PRAISED by a long term member for once, All The Best,

 

[Delta]

kk,

so it goes like this:

you go up to hot chick who doesn't know you from a hole in the ground. you say, "hi, wanna go out with me sometime?"

yeah.

ok.

delta

 

[MrConfidence]

Not as easy as it sounds. Sure actually going up to a girl is easy, but after that, it gets so complicated.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

kk,

so it goes like this:

you go up to hot chick who doesn't know you from a hole in the ground. you say, "hi, wanna go out with me sometime?"

yeah.

ok.

delta

This is exactly why you guys are so enthralled with getting her phone number. You have no idea how to gain her interest via rapport during your first meeting. You hope that when you eventually decide to call her you can come up with some compelling reason for her to go out with you.

What you guys don't understand is that your inability to gain such interest makes it difficult for you to get her number in the first place. She doesn't know you guys from a hole in the ground, why should she give you her number (other than to just get rid of you).

This same premise is why there are so many posts about guys who are lucky enough to get her telephone number but then have NO IDEA WHAT SO EVER as to what to say to her on the phone. Simple reason for this it that you had yet to gain any rapport with her!

Face it, by depending on getting her number without gaining any rapport or common interest you guys are just delaying the inevitable let down of either never calling the woman or calling her and leaving a message that is never returned. The forum is full of threads substantiating this.

You guys need to learn that getting a phone number isn't your goal, you need to raise her interest to a level where she will want to meet you at another time. Getting her phone number is a stepping stone but it's not a necessity.

 

[The Nice Guy is Gone]

Not as easy as it sounds. Sure actually going up to a girl is easy, but after that, it gets so complicated.

True, it does get complicated, and I'm in agreement with pretty much every post here. The main deal is that every single situation and every single person is different. The options, however, remain the same every single time.

Vibe = good = go for it
Vibe = bad = what's the worst that could happen
No Vibe = same thing as bad

The bottom line remains the same to: If you don't go for it, the answer will always be no.

 

[LegendBoy]

Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."

Thats the gist of why you should approach.

 

[Shiftkey]

Tyler Durden doesn't really ask women out on dates. One of MM's main points is to not ask women out on dates.

But I agree with you that this forum places too much emphesis on "number closes." Out of the hundreds of women I've approached and closed, I can count how many numbers I didn't get when I asked, on one hand. Number closing is rediculously easy, it's turning that number into something that counts. Most of those numbers flaked simply because my game wasn't good enough - this is where the complications come in. If you read The Game, you'll see that Mystery, Style, TD, and others DID in fact do much more than ask a woman out on a date. TD especially is protrayed as a "social robot" with how mechanical he makes it.

Many hot babes won't want you, many of them don't want me, and many don't want, Tyler Durden, either, that is the unfortunate reality, but if you are prepared to lay down your pride and ask them out, you will soon hit the jackpot and have the hot babe of your desires in your arms, just take some bloo-dy risks.

I agree with part of this. Too many guys here are keyboard jockeys who never, or rarely, give any effort. They'd be a lot more successful if they went out there to learn instead of reading so much online. Where I don't agree with you, is that you can get virtually any woman if your game is tight enough.

 

[squirrels]

Getting women is ALL the correct attitude. Once you have that attitude, women will be attracted to YOU. Not fall in your lap, as someone pointed out, but they will make themselves available in little ways, perhaps the simplest of which being to initiate conversation. You WILL see this when it happens...you will not be able to help it.

It won't be that logical voice saying, "Dammit, SoSuave says I should approach this girl...arrgh I'll never make my DJ bootcamp totals!" It'll be that one in the back of your head that you inherently realize as you saying, "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to talk to this girl and see what happens?"

When that voice speaks, usually the conscious mind will come up with a million reasons why not to follow it. There are ALWAYS reasons not to follow it. But when you get this feeling of inspiration, the answer is always "yes". The only question is whether you WANT this bad enough to accept it.

When you REALLY get it, seducing women isn't HARD. It's not a CHORE or a CONQUEST. When you REALLY get it, women appear in abundance and offer themselves to you freely, in one way or another. And getting with them will feel not like tactical warfare, but like playing a game of kickball felt when you were 8. The strategy, while present, is minimal and internalized. The rest is inspiration. Women will come, and women will go, but you won't care about the ones that don't "work out" because you learn from them, and others will be waiting in the wings for their shot.

That's how you know you're finally starting to get it...when you feel yourself HAVING FUN with it. If seducing women is NOT fun for you, then you're not doing it right.

 

[KoalaKing]

kk,

so it goes like this:

you go up to hot chick who doesn't know you from a hole in the ground. you say, "hi, wanna go out with me sometime?"

yeah.

ok.

delta

You have to learn two things, (1) the places to go where it is easier to approach girls, (2) how to use your own body language to reveal to them that you are attracted to them and to be able to then read the girls own body language which will convey if she likes you or not.

Maybe I find this easier because I have sisters who I grew up with, who are all within a few years of my own age and I have always met their friends.

Contrary to what many guys will say on here I will always compliment a girl on her physical beauty if I don't have very much time to talk to her, this lets her know straight away what I am thinking about her.

If I was single now I would go into shops, attend the gym, as well as talk to attractive girls at the checkouts of the shopping plaza where I shop.

If you can read the body language of the girls in these types of environments then it almost makes it impossible for you to be rejected because you just don't try to allure the girls whose body language reveals that they are not interested, but if they are interested they will always show this, but only if they know that you like them in the beginning. :yes:

 

[( . )( . )]

You have no idea how to gain her interest via rapport during your first meeting.

Thats where Tyler, David D, Mystery etc etc come in isnt it as tried and tested guidelines?

Oh but wait

All I ever read about on here are the likes of, Neil Strauss, Tyler Durden, Mystery, and of course my favourite, Swinggcat.

Woops now that theyre frowned upon we could have a problem though, you reckon?

And around around we go to complete the cycle of bullsh!t, what a complete and utter useless mental mastabatory piece of non informative wank this thread is.

These guys are just human beings, they were born as babies like everyone else, yet you all seem to WORSHIP them like they are GOD's.

Who and where are all these guys " worshipping " ? I see guys praising (<---take note of that word) exchanging David D, Mystery etc's advice because theyve used it and gotten laid but not too much god like worship.

Are you jealous or something? I noticed this in one of your posts when Francisco just got done pissing in your pocket.

It is GREAT to be PRAISED by a long term member for once, All The Best,

KoalaKing your full of it, I call B.S.

 

[KoalaKing]

Thats where Tyler, David D, Mystery etc etc come in isnt it as tried and tested guidelines?

Oh but wait



Woops now that theyre frowned upon we could have a problem though, you reckon?

And around around we go to complete the cycle of bullsh!t, what a complete and utter useless mental mastabatory piece of non informative wank this thread is.

Who and where are all these guys " worshipping " ? I see guys praising (<---take note of that word) exchanging David D, Mystery etc's advice because theyve used it and gotten laid but not too much god like worship.

Are you jealous or something? I noticed this in one of your posts when Francisco just got done pissing in your pocket.



KoalaKing your full of it, I call B.S.

THANKYOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS :crackup:

 

[( . )( . )]

THANKYOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS :crackup:

No problem, didnt want them too kind though because then I'd be "worshipping" you right?

 

[Delta]

francisco,

i don't understand your reply to my objection. kk is saying just go and ask them out... as if that was a process as simple as the one i laid out. my commentary was on that. what was your point regarding that comment?

kk,

right, body language.... but still, everything that goes on during the interaction is what you are either skipping over or discounting completely because it comes so easy for you.

we understand that 'all you have to do is ask a girl out'.

and for some of us, getting POSITIVE SIGNALS is harder and rarer than others.

it might be because of who we are, who they are, a combination, or even geographic location too.

so yes, what you say is technically true but it's kind of like saying, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS....

ok....

delta