“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Why does this site advocate spinning plates instead of relationships

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We men benefit from controlling our partners in relationships and it has always been like this throughout human history. Now that feminism and women's rights have came up, women are free to ride the **** carousel anytime they please. Well, people are trying to convince us to play the women game by spinning plates. I'm sorry, but women will always have the upper-hand in polygamous/no string attached relationships. We are trying to out play them in a game they already have an advantage over. This is not a good strategy whatsoever. It does not matter how good looking or rich you are. It's hard enough for me to get one girl, but four, that's nearly impossible. Don't even try to say my game is not good enough because 75% of the **** yall say is inflated and yall are using dating sites too. It's our masculine instincts to be protective and insecure of our women.
 

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It kinda seems women these days are more into having a bunch of orbiter than a relationship. So I guess spinning plates you are indirectly an orbiter?
 

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Well, people are trying to convince us to play the women game by spinning plates. I'm sorry, but women will always have the upper-hand in polygamous/no string attached relationships.

You miss the point of spinning plates. Its not necessarily about banging as many girls as you can....its more about avoiding oneitis, screening and having options, etc. The problem is most guys meet a girl...and then thats it. Hes all about her/all over her. His lack of options lets his behavior become needy and desperate and thus pushes the girl away. When your SINGLE(aka not exclusive with a girl), you shouldnt be putting all your eggs into one basket....your single so keep your options open. Its entirely possible to be dating a girl without being exclusive and also dating/meeting other women.

As far as relationships....that should never be our concern. You should be dating women and only when a woman brings up becoming exclusive....should you even give any thought to the matter. Countless times ive yearned for a relationship with a girl i was dating....all it did was push her away because it changed my mindset from prize....to being supplicating to her. Date multiple women in order to find the "good ones"....then when a good one brings up becoming exclusive....and you really like her and enjoy her....then feel free to discuss the relationship.

It's hard enough for me to get one girl, but four, that's nearly impossible.


Thoughts lead to actions. If you think like this...prepare for this to remain reality.

It's our masculine instincts to be protective and insecure of our women.

No its not. Society has morphed our "instincts" to be like that^

Tap into your true masculine core like some of us here...and youll realize our instincts are much more goal oriented and not so much about women. Prize Mentality...
 
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This is interesting by the OP. need to put some thoughts on this one.
 

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TheException said:
It's our masculine instincts to be protective and insecure of our women.

No its not. Society has morphed our "instincts" to be like that^

Tap into your true masculine core like some of us here...and youll realize our instincts are much more goal oriented and not so much about women. Prize Mentality...
Nah he's correct, it's biology. If you have a woman and shes banging some other guy and gets pregnant by him and you dont even know that, you are raising some other guys kid and putting all your resources into someone elses genes which are getting a free ride to succeed so to speak.

That's why women love orbiters because if she gets preggers by some random guy she can just pretend it was the orbiters baby so it wont starve because it doesnt get fed.

We still have hunter gatherer brains in a 21st century society.
 
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Mostly we are here to help afcs learn the way to keep a girl interested in him. And yet, we go so far into "plates" mentality.
 

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I agree. Spinning plates is really just playing into women's hands. It just artificially increasing the supply of available men for women. If every guy was trying to spin 4 plates then women would have 4 guys to spread herself with at a time. Most women do not want more than one guy at a time.

So plate spinning is the model for how the top 20% best looking men can service 80% of the women. It is cause and also the effect of female hypergamy.

I think the whole theory is no good. Either you can get laid within a timely manner or not, or you can find a more desirable girl then the last one you are with. There's really no need to work your azz off and spread yourself thin to have multiple plates spinning. I think if you can truly get and keep several women spinning then most likely you just need to raise your standards and go after higher quality/rarer females.
 

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Brad said:
Mostly we are here to help afcs learn the way to keep a girl interested in him. And yet, we go so far into "plates" mentality.
I think the reason we go so far into the "plates" mentality is because the mentality that AFCs are required to learn in order to keep a girl interested is that of a man who has options. It's hard to fake feeling like you have a lot of options, like you could walk away from a girl you really like at the drop of a hat. Having multiple girls on the go makes this abundance mentality authentic.
 

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Spinning plates was an alien concept to humans until the recent times.

Men dont feel the need to waste all their energies going after women and women were taken in place from men and men created(fair) laws and culture.

It's just now that women behave like a kid in a candy shop that has to eat as much as possible around, men are forced to do the same in order to protect their mental health and increase their chances of sex and relationship.

Men dont spin splates, what they have done for the whole time was getting a wife which gave them kids and once in a while if possible get a extra women for purely sexual reasons, but in the end of the day all his energy and resourches were for his wife and kids.

Women on the other hand dont have resourches nor produce sh1t thats why they can afford not to focus in the family unit, once they have someone to take care of them (the gov) they are free to live no different than animals always spreading their legs for whoever makes them tingle or provide an ego boost if desired from other women.

Spinning plates is just a potential shield against the current state of things in the modern dating market.
 

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Because spinning plates is fvcking awesome assuming you like sexual variety and dislike the drama that happens in the majority of monogamous relationships.
 

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All of you fail ****ing miserably


we've talked about this before on the big boy forum , so i'm going to paste a response i made about a year ago here. I'm married BTW.

my viewpoint never changed. the problem is that you are looking thruogh a different glass as I am.


In other words, you see spinning plates and being married as 2 totally different choices meaning that spinning plates is one life style you can live and getting married and having a family is another.

I see them as part of the exact same process, meaning, spinning plates is what you do until you find a plate that is strong enough to where you don't want to spin any other plates so you stop spinning unnecessary plates.

I followed the steps of someone who has dated a lot of women and ran into a girl that was the perfect plate for my life and i acted accordingly. if something were to happen to us and i became single i woudl go back to spinning plates, and i would not be shifting my mindset, I'm must starting back at step 1 of the same process that i am now on step 10 with.

To answer your question, it's the same process. spinning plates is what you do to qualify women. It's basically a different way to screen for women than what AFCs are taught growing up.. buy one girl flowers, candy, shower her with attention, instead we teach you to keep your options open, don't commit to anyone until one of them forces you to by being that kick ass with her actions, over a period of time. This solves 95% of all the problems you have with the opposite sex right here

but to say that they are 2 different things, you don't get it. No one, that i respect at least, is advocating not getting in a LTR with a girl that is worth being in one with if you find her if she is a plate. we are saying don't just jump into a relationship with the first girl that will smile and suck your ****
 

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Think of it this way: If a girl you just met proposed a serious, monogamous relationship after one date, you would head for the hills. Why? It's too much, too soon.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with dating several people and getting to know them to determine if you are compatible, rather than settling for the first person that gives you the least bit of attention. I don't necessarily agree with sleeping with several people...but that's a different discussion.

It doesn't make sense to say "ok, I'm going to only exclusively date this person until the relationship goes south". It makes much more sense to get to know them first. See how they handle a crisis. Watch how they dress, act, take care of themselves and treat others. Then, after you start saying to yourself, "I really like this person, and I see a potential future with them in it", that's when you should say "let's be in a relationship."

A relationship is based on a heck of a lot more than sex. Seriously. If you get into a car accident and can't have sex because of surgery or something, a woman that really just wants sexual gratification will leave you. But a woman that really cares...she'll take care of you, turn down other men, and stay faithful. Why? Because it's not just based on sex. It's based on the fact that she wants to maintain the relationship with you, because it's made of stronger stuff. Because she likes you as a person. Because you're compatible on some deeper level.

Think of spinning plates as "getting to know someone" instead. And there's no reason not to do it at your own pace. Maybe you want to get to know two people at a time. Maybe you want to get to know six people at a time. Maybe you just want to go out with someone three times and if it's not fun anymore, then stop.

Some people on here have a goal: Pick up a lot of women, add lots of notches to the belt. Others have a different goal: Use skills gained from here to pick up a lot of women, find a decent one, then date her. Others might even have a still different goal: Learn how to approach women and not be awkward.
 

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backbreaker said:
To answer your question, it's the same process. spinning plates is what you do to qualify women. It's basically a different way to screen for women than what AFCs are taught growing up.. buy one girl flowers, candy, shower her with attention, instead we teach you to keep your options open, don't commit to anyone until one of them forces you to by being that kick ass with her actions, over a period of time. This solves 95% of all the problems you have with the opposite sex right here

but to say that they are 2 different things, you don't get it. No one, that i respect at least, is advocating not getting in a LTR with a girl that is worth being in one with if you find her if she is a plate. we are saying don't just jump into a relationship with the first girl that will smile and suck your ****
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Spinning plates is simply a necessary precondition to a relationship so that you can choose wisely and from a position of strength.
And that's the thread! Thanks for coming out ladies and gents.

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
 

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Not meaning to nag on you, but I wish you'd stop using YOUR experiences to identify what everyone else is going through. Just because YOU can't get 1 girl - with 4 being "impossible" - doesn't mean the same holds true for everyone else. And, IME, it DOES matter how good looking, rich, or high status you are. If you're what women consider "hot" or "sexy", it's easy pickin's. Of course, they have to say, and act on it - for it to be so. You can't just say you're good looking - then not get any women.
 

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pinkfl said:
Think of it this way: If a girl you just met proposed a serious, monogamous relationship after one date, you would head for the hills. Why? It's too much, too soon.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with dating several people and getting to know them to determine if you are compatible, rather than settling for the first person that gives you the least bit of attention. I don't necessarily agree with sleeping with several people...but that's a different discussion.

It doesn't make sense to say "ok, I'm going to only exclusively date this person until the relationship goes south". It makes much more sense to get to know them first. See how they handle a crisis. Watch how they dress, act, take care of themselves and treat others. Then, after you start saying to yourself, "I really like this person, and I see a potential future with them in it", that's when you should say "let's be in a relationship."

A relationship is based on a heck of a lot more than sex. Seriously. If you get into a car accident and can't have sex because of surgery or something, a woman that really just wants sexual gratification will leave you. But a woman that really cares...she'll take care of you, turn down other men, and stay faithful. Why? Because it's not just based on sex. It's based on the fact that she wants to maintain the relationship with you, because it's made of stronger stuff. Because she likes you as a person. Because you're compatible on some deeper level.

Think of spinning plates as "getting to know someone" instead. And there's no reason not to do it at your own pace. Maybe you want to get to know two people at a time. Maybe you want to get to know six people at a time. Maybe you just want to go out with someone three times and if it's not fun anymore, then stop.

Some people on here have a goal: Pick up a lot of women, add lots of notches to the belt. Others have a different goal: Use skills gained from here to pick up a lot of women, find a decent one, then date her. Others might even have a still different goal: Learn how to approach women and not be awkward.
Okay, now we can end thread. Great post by pink. :rockon:
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Because being in a relationship makes you insecure, which makes you easily manipulated. Women do not like insecure guys who they can easily manipulate.
 

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Because this is an American forum run by anti-family American reactionists, most of whom are narcissistic arseholes.

Plate spinning for what? That just makes you a slvt... but PUAs will look for the research that supports it whenever someone tries to make a counter point. Live by example and others will follow. If you live as a slvt, you will attract them. Thoughts become things, yes... thoughts also attract things.
 

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I'm a well known supporter of spinning plates. Its how I live and I love it. :yes:

People saying monogamy and insecurity in men is biological are DEAD wrong. Its not biological.. its just a natural reaction to fear, insecurity and feeling inadequate. When men have options they use them.

I'll tell you whats biological --> Impregnating as many women as possible so your genes survive in case some of the mothers/kids die. Infant AND mother fatality was high before modern medicine. Didn't make much sense to invest 100% in one woman OR child. Seems we forget history don't we? :trouble:

Spreading your seed --> THAT is biological and THAT is what men were naturally designed to do. Men did NOT evolve to be pandering ass-kissers for ONE woman. But its possible women have been breeding men to be this way like dogs. Choosing the more stable men to reproduce with AFTER riding the c0ck carousal over time leads to more beta faggot genes passing on. Who knows. Remember that women have 100% freedom and precision over the father of their kid thanks to modern medicine.

But there is nothing biological in men that makes them naturally desire monogamy and commitment. At most.. there is a desire to protect his kids and KNOW his kids are his kids (the reason men naturally hate sluts). Men want a woman who is only a slut for him.. but he still wants to f*ck other women. :up:

So don't get it twisted gentlemen. We did not evolved to be "yes dear" beta faggots handcuffed to one woman until we expire. NOPE.. not even close.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Because this is an American forum run by anti-family American reactionists, most of whom are narcissistic arseholes.

Plate spinning for what? That just makes you a slvt... but PUAs will look for the research that supports it whenever someone tries to make a counter point. Live by example and others will follow. If you live as a slvt, you will attract them. Thoughts become things, yes... thoughts also attract things.
You attract what you project?
 

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PlayHer Man said:
I'm a well known supporter of spinning plates. Its how I live and I love it. :yes:

People saying monogamy and insecurity in men is biological are DEAD wrong. Its not biological.. its just a natural reaction to fear, insecurity and feeling inadequate. When men have options they use them.

I'll tell you whats biological --> Impregnating as many women as possible so your genes survive in case some of the mothers/kids die. Infant AND mother fatality was high before modern medicine. Didn't make much sense to invest 100% in one woman OR child. Seems we forget history don't we? :trouble:

Spreading your seed --> THAT is biological and THAT is what men were naturally designed to do. Men did NOT evolve to be pandering ass-kissers for ONE woman. But its possible women have been breeding men to be this way like dogs. Choosing the more stable men to reproduce with AFTER riding the c0ck carousal over time leads to more beta faggot genes passing on. Who knows. Remember that women have 100% freedom and precision over the father of their kid thanks to modern medicine.

But there is nothing biological in men that makes them naturally desire monogamy and commitment. At most.. there is a desire to protect his kids and KNOW his kids are his kids (the reason men naturally hate sluts). Men want a woman who is only a slut for him.. but he still wants to f*ck other women. :up:

So don't get it twisted gentlemen. We did not evolved to be "yes dear" beta faggots handcuffed to one woman until we expire. NOPE.. not even close.
exactly. Your not born insecure. You didn't think your cry is weird, or as a kid you did not give a **** about what others think. Insecurity in men is conditioned by society. Post modern decaying feminized society. Society wants you to be insecure, but only you are in charge of that **** sitting on your shoulders.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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