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Why do women love the idea of travel ?

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Hope you can help me understand.

Seems to be a theme I've picked up too that the majority of women want to travel, be a nomad. Visit other countries, van life, whatever.

Even if they have never done it, probably will never do it. Seems they are always believing they will. Have a fantacy or aspirations or view it as the perfect life.


Is it social media planting this image in their head? Had it always been like this?


Where does it come from ? What's the reason?

I just want to seek understanding and the psychology behind it. Especially in older women , that have never done it and likely never will now their youth has gone and they have more responsibilities.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hmm, women want what other women want.
Or better: women want what they see other women wanting.
There are exceptions, but it’s not like it is for us men.
We see a man go fishing and we might appreciate it, but we don’t envy that if we’re not into it.
While women may feel FOMO about that
 

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Who doesn't like the idea of travel? I love the idea of travel and I do it often.

Is there anything better than fvcking like rabbits in a new place and new city?
 
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Women are really trendy, traveling just happens to be the trend and has been for a while. And no, it wasn't always like that. Social media helped reinforce it as they get to show everyone and soak up the attention.

I also think some do it for self-care and empowerment/independence reasons which is why guys aren't as excited about traveling as women are.
 

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I think it’s mostly about what travel represents: freedom, adventure, and a break from everyday life. Social media amplifies it, but even before that, travel was always seen as exciting and aspirational. For many, it’s more about the idea and what it symbolizes than actually doing it, which is why even older women might dream about it without ever going.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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The real thing is: what would you do as a mature men in order to manage all of this turmoil..
It's like a kid walking by a candy shop asking you to buy her candies..
 

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Hope you can help me understand.

Seems to be a theme I've picked up too that the majority of women want to travel, be a nomad. Visit other countries, van life, whatever.

Even if they have never done it, probably will never do it. Seems they are always believing they will. Have a fantacy or aspirations or view it as the perfect life.


Is it social media planting this image in their head? Had it always been like this?


Where does it come from ? What's the reason?

I just want to seek understanding and the psychology behind it. Especially in older women , that have never done it and likely never will now their youth has gone and they have more responsibilities.
Several years ago I have worked in professional environment where most of contractors were females and they have sticked together - one of my acquantainces from this environment told me that when they are travelling, at least some of them are interested in "dating" foreigners at the place of visit which kind of screams "open for ONS" to me. So yup, the "travelling" types are often cck carousel users.

Personally, I connect passion for travel with female hypergamy as travelling allow you to escape most of consequences of sleeping around (even in social media times) - I would say that the most passionate women concerning travel simply love this idea of being seduced by handsome foreigner, which idea is supported by books, media etc., also for women travel equals almost always fun time while men perceive it often as work (majority of guys do not ride shotgun on long distance routes by car when travelling with a woman), also in previous ages, travelling was dangerous for women and they always needed men for protection - so there is this understanding for them that it's kind of privilege (while for men it was often disaster - like being conscripted for war in distant country or taking part in distant endeavour that annihilates your personal life - like job on oil rig or on cargo ship).

Some of them also consider it as a "social requirement" to be "aligned with current trends and certainly it may be a form of female vs female competition ("She would LOVE to travel as much as I do, but she can't"), especially that some females are ready to jump your boat simply if you will propose some nice 10-14 days trip to nice country.

If you are fugly or below her requirements in LMS, she will simply lie to her friends that some distant female cousin of friend for work done all the photos (even if the lie shall be blatant, she will just create some mystery and envy around herself) - in such a case she will probably spread legs once or twice for you or at least let you play with her boobs - I have never myself proposed such arrangements to females, but I know that some of them (especially the ones that want to play the game, but have some deficiencies in male attention) are ready for it since pretty much first good date.

Personally, I have always screened heavily women profiles on Tinder vs presence of many travel photos, as it pretty much screams "I require maintenance and I had already a lot of sex with other guys" - certainly not the type you are looking for LTR/marriage etc. - thankfully most of them do not understand that this passion for "travel" may be considered repulsive and I think its good that they think about it so much because you can get quick few quick declarations and simply go your own way (if she has visited half of Latin or South America, it means she likes mexican hot dog but I am not necessarily referring to the food ).
 
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Not all women do. I've had a few GF's who didn't. With that being said, I think most Western people, men or women, love travel.
Travel has been in vogue for at least a century now. The 1930's really opened up world travel (to those who could afford it). Later we saw the rise of motels and freeways. The increase in national parks.
My current GF loves travel. As do I.
 

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Who doesn't like the idea of travel? I love the idea of travel and I do it often.

Is there anything better than fvcking like rabbits in a new place and new city?
I'm not too fussed personally.

Ironically I'm quite well traveled but it just doesn't excite me.

I just don't get the excitement about it though like it's a life goal or your missing out. Honestly if I never left my own country again in my lifetime it wouldn't bother me one bit. I like it where I am.
 
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Several years ago I have worked in professional environment where most of contractors were females and they have sticked together - one of my acquantainces from this environment told me that when they are travelling, at least some of them are interested in "dating" foreigners at the place of visit which kind of screams "open for ONS" to me. So yup, the "travelling" types are often cck carousel users.

Personally, I connect passion for travel with female hypergamy as travelling allow you to escape most of consequences of sleeping around (even in social media times) - I would say that the most passionate women concerning travel simply love this idea of being seduced by handsome foreigner, which idea is supported by books, media etc., also for women travel equals almost always fun time while men perceive it often as work (majority of guys do not ride shotgun on long distance routes by car when travelling with a woman), also in previous ages, travelling was dangerous for women and they always needed men for protection - so there is this understanding for them that it's kind of privilege (while for men it was often disaster - like being conscripted for war in distant country or taking part in distant endeavour that annihilates your personal life - like job on oil rig or on cargo ship).

Some of them also consider it as a "social requirement" to be "aligned with current trends and certainly it may be a form of female vs female competition ("She would LOVE to travel as much as I do, but she can't"), especially that some females are ready to jump your boat simply if you will propose some nice 10-14 days trip to nice country.

If you are fugly or below her requirements in LMS, she will simply lie to her friends that some distant female cousin of friend for work done all the photos (even if the lie shall be blatant, she will just create some mystery and envy around herself) - in such a case she will probably spread legs once or twice for you or at least let you play with her boobs - I have never myself proposed such arrangements to females, but I know that some of them (especially the ones that want to play the game, but have some deficiencies in male attention) are ready for it since pretty much first good date.

Personally, I have always screened heavily women profiles on Tinder vs presence of many travel photos, as it pretty much screams "I require maintenance and I had already a lot of sex with other guys" - certainly not the type you are looking for LTR/marriage etc. - thankfully most of them do not understand that this passion for "travel" may be considered repulsive and I think its good that they think about it so much because you can get quick few quick declarations and simply go your own way (if she has visited half of Latin or South America, it means she likes mexican hot dog but I am not necessarily referring to the food ).
Yeah women that have loads of travel photos give me the "ick" ,
 

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Basically, my guess is that it is a high-value activity, or something that perceives status and aspirations. Not only do you need the financial resources to pay for accommodations, travel, and so on, but you also need a job that lets you take paid time off to do these things. There’s also something about going to a resort where everything is done for you for a week, with an open bar and food at your feet, so you get to live that lifestyle for a whole week. Even if you can’t do it on your own, finding someone who can cover your travel can be considered high value.

If I hated anything about this, it’s the flight attendants who get to fly to these exotic countries and make it look like leisure when in reality it’s work. With that said, I don't find anything undermining or hateful or jealousy about people that get to travel more than I do. People should do whatever makes them happy as long as they are not hurting no one in the process.

I don’t think it falls only on women. All attention-seeking people do things for attention. Some will even make stories in their grocery trips by buying the most organic, expensive things to make themselves seem better than the common folk. This is what social media is: showing a highlight reel of people’s true lives.
 

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I'm not too fussed personally.

Ironically I'm quite well traveled but it just doesn't excite me.

I just don't get the excitement about it though like it's a life goal or your missing out. Honestly if I never left my own country again in my lifetime it wouldn't bother me one bit. I like it where I am.
I'd be fine just traveling here in the US for the rest of my life.
 

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I'm not too fussed personally.

Ironically I'm quite well traveled but it just doesn't excite me.

I just don't get the excitement about it though like it's a life goal or your missing out. Honestly if I never left my own country again in my lifetime it wouldn't bother me one bit. I like it where I am.
I was raised in a multicultural home in the US so I've always loved finding out about other cultures, seeing new places, experiencing new things and creating memories. I also have family all over the world that I still need to visit.

If I could have a million dollars in a bank or a million dollars worth of memories I would take the latter 1000 times out of 1000. I view traveling as an adventure and I am nothing of not adventurous and fun loving, which probably explains why I don't usually have much problem finding women who want to come along for the ride.

People spend far too much time worrying about trying to become rich to attract women and far too little time working on being someone exciting and fun to be around, which pays immediate dividends at any income level. Boring a women to death while being wealthy is simply going to lead them to letting you pay for stuff while finding someone that's exciting to be with.
 
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Imho, travel allows women to have new identities. She can be anything she wants when she travels because nobody knows who she is. Also, since she is "foreign" she becomes special - a superman.


Her mistakes, her baggage, her "everything" is gone. she can start a new. She can be a princess. The virginal princess. The people she cheated on... the promises to friends that went unfulfilled, etc.. etc.. it doesn't matter. It gets reset.

the more a women hates her current life, the more she loves travel. Especially those that travel a lot...
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Ironically I'm quite well traveled but it just doesn't excite me.
same for me. many of the folks that have really traveled around don't want it as they already had it.

in each location, the locals want to travel... while traveling most just want to settle some place, nice....
 

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there are different ways to travel. 5 star hotels vs backpack and work as you go.

when she tells travel, need another level of detail to know what she is looking.

it can be adventure/escape or just a financial filter.

i often see first or second topic in a pack of girls is travel. its a status check.
 

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Some of you guys are really pin headed. No it doesn't automatically mean a girl is a w h o r e, for crying out loud.

My sister just got back from Brazil and Argentina. Last summer she was in Croatia. With her two teenage children (18yr son, 13 year daughter). They have family in Croatia, and they are all fluent in Spanish so South America is easy. That sister has gone all over Europe, at times alone, and stays in convents. With actual nuns enforcing a 9pm curfew. Its cheaper and safer than many other ways to travel, men are not allowed at the convents.

Another sister went on an Antartica trip alone last Christmas, and she's a merchant mariner (used to be first mate on an oil rig, she's sailed through the Panama canal (not on the rig, lol, and when she graduated college I took her to Spain for 2 weeks, my treat...

My other sister loves to cruise. She and her family went back and forth to England (where they were on holiday for 4 weeks) on the QE2. They have been all over the world on cruises, as a couple, as a family, my sister alone, with sisters, etc. It's how they like to vacation.

I have been to Europe and South America a number of times and my husband and I also enjoy cruising and travel for his sport.

I am an older woman. Once my youngest finishes high school next year I might get a place in Europe and a place in South America and go between pied-a-terres. I am close to retirement and I might just see some stuff before I'm too old.

All this takes both time & money, obviously, but its a fascinating world we live in, why not explore?

Nothing inherently wrong with travel or the desire to do so. Transoceanic flights in coach suck, but I don't have enough means to overcome that, lol.

My husband and I enjoy having adventures together, not sure why some of y'all view it so negatively. It expands your perspective of the world & creates wonderful experiences that material things cannot.
 

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Tinder girls in EU are not necessarily interested in staying in convents while travelling or travelling with children or travels to Antarctica, they also do not belong to 40+ or 50+ generation (but tbh even women at my age were interested in "fun-trav3lling" with foreign dcks involved).

I am not saying its evil (I know about guys that cheated on their wives when abroad) I am just saying its a red flag on dating profile if provided in context of travelling to fun-maxx (photos from hiking are viewed differently than photos from swinning pool in Dubai), it is also about intuition and about what female speak about herself (when I was on a date with 12 years old younger women several years ago she openly told me that she was with some guy on holidays, but they never reqlly took off). I was never looking for q woman that simply goes to fun-fck holiday with man other than her boyfriend. Its about what you are looking for - if someone is simply looking for fun, there is a lot of funboyz and fungirlz on dating apps.
 

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Some of you guys are really pin headed. No it doesn't automatically mean a girl is a w h o r e, for crying out loud.

My sister just got back from Brazil and Argentina. Last summer she was in Croatia. With her two teenage children (18yr son, 13 year daughter). They have family in Croatia, and they are all fluent in Spanish so South America is easy. That sister has gone all over Europe, at times alone, and stays in convents. With actual nuns enforcing a 9pm curfew. Its cheaper and safer than many other ways to travel, men are not allowed at the convents.

Another sister went on an Antartica trip alone last Christmas, and she's a merchant mariner (used to be first mate on an oil rig, she's sailed through the Panama canal (not on the rig, lol, and when she graduated college I took her to Spain for 2 weeks, my treat...

My other sister loves to cruise. She and her family went back and forth to England (where they were on holiday for 4 weeks) on the QE2. They have been all over the world on cruises, as a couple, as a family, my sister alone, with sisters, etc. It's how they like to vacation.

I have been to Europe and South America a number of times and my husband and I also enjoy cruising and travel for his sport.

I am an older woman. Once my youngest finishes high school next year I might get a place in Europe and a place in South America and go between pied-a-terres. I am close to retirement and I might just see some stuff before I'm too old.

All this takes both time & money, obviously, but its a fascinating world we live in, why not explore?

Nothing inherently wrong with travel or the desire to do so. Transoceanic flights in coach suck, but I don't have enough means to overcome that, lol.

My husband and I enjoy having adventures together, not sure why some of y'all view it so negatively. It expands your perspective of the world & creates wonderful experiences that material things cannot.
that's actually nice. some love travel, some do not.

the way you describe it is very close to how i have heard many ladies telling about travel. it is the first or second topic that a group of them will usually start talking. often its a competition sounding thing, for those that don't travel they are left out and lower status.

I am well travelled for business and fun and service, mostly business or service.

nothing is 100%, most middle age and older men I chat with look forward to or are actively setting up there version of a castle. castle is a metaphor for the place they like to be. almost none ever are eager to travel unless its for a specific activity. this is pretty well divided between men/women.

the inner systems are basically different. men and women can not really see how the other views this topic. albeit any can adjust and accommodate.
 
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