"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why do so many women complain about online dating?

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Online dating is just about the greatest thing ever invented for the female race. 5/10 single moms can go on there and easily date 8/10 dudes who are superior to them in every way. If you're a legit quality 7-8/10 female, you can easily date 10/10 males. Online dating is ungodly one sided - Unless you're the top 0.01% of men, you're settling for garbage.


So why do so many of them complain about it's effectiveness? I mean imagine if there was a dating resource created where average men could easily get women much much more attractive than themselves, hell MULTIPLE women much more attractive than themselves - the entire male gender in the world would be overjoyed.


Is it just because most females don't have any idea how hard it is on the other side so they take it for granted?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Because women have so many options combined with insane standards, but they aren't worth what they want in return.
 

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I met the girl I’m dating on there and she is 7.2/10 but is even higher because she has a good personality too. I think we’re at about the same level in terms of appearance.
 

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I think they just take it for granted

IF they tried online dating as a male, they would want to kill themselves
I'm sure if they woke up tomorrow and had to suddenly experience what dating is like for men they'd have a panic attack.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I've been on Bumble for 2 weeks now I believe.... I started talking to a chick who is definitely a 9 in body and face, we exchanged numbers and spoke on the phone a few times however she has kids and ex husband so i faded away slowly lol. I got messages from cute girls "Hey cutie" to "Morning sexy" and we had a few lines of convo when things just drifted off. I can see why guys get frustrated with it so I came to the same conclusion that I had before I signed up, It isnt worth sh*t. I love actually going out and approaching a Woman face to face and do my thing right then and there.

The hotter she is, the more amped I am to go and approach her. I'll stick to the "old school" way and do actual approaches.
 

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Women do have better odds and more options with online dating than men do, I think we are all in agreement with that for the most part. IMO, though, the reason they may complain about online dating is because even though they may get 100+ messages from really good men in a single day, the men who they think they are entitled to aren't in that 100 because they aren't using online dating at all.
 

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Online dating is just about the greatest thing ever invented for the female race. 5/10 single moms can go on there and easily date 8/10 dudes who are superior to them in every way. If you're a legit quality 7-8/10 female, you can easily date 10/10 males. Online dating is ungodly one sided - Unless you're the top 0.01% of men, you're settling for garbage.


So why do so many of them complain about it's effectiveness? I mean imagine if there was a dating resource created where average men could easily get women much much more attractive than themselves, hell MULTIPLE women much more attractive than themselves - the entire male gender in the world would be overjoyed.


Is it just because most females don't have any idea how hard it is on the other side so they take it for granted?
This sounds like a veiled cry for "help! I don't get any results with online dating!" If it is not working for you, avoid it. Try something else.

Online dating is very popular with guys who cannot handle the possibility of being rejected in real life, in a public setting. So they remain behind their screen, tap tapping away in frustration.

So, develop a thicker skin and get out there in the real world and approach women or go to parties with an RSVP list if you don't like totally cold approaches.

These whining posts are just a way to make excuses for your lack of results when you aren't really trying anything else.
 

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even though they may get 100+ messages from really good men in a single day, the men who they think they are entitled to aren't in that 100
Have you ever seen what those 100 messages are like? Most of them are just a one line request to fvck. Just because we as men would enjoy that from women doesn't mean that is what women want.
 

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Very simple. They love getting Chads...who promptly pump and dump them or spin them for plates. After a few of those experiences they realize they're just being played when what they want is a guy they can show off to their family, friends, social circles, go to the parties with, be available daily, go on trips and vacations with.

Despite all that though, and sure they complain, but they still want Chads because well they're used to having Chads even when they're 5s.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Have you ever seen what those 100 messages are like? Most of them are just a one line request to fvck. Just because we as men would enjoy that from women doesn't mean that is what women want.
that's a common myth

I saw an experiment done once using pics of a 6/10 female. She had tons of messages from 8+/10 men with legit, thoughtful, mature openers
 

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This sounds like a veiled cry for "help! I don't get any results with online dating!" If it is not working for you, avoid it. Try something else.

Online dating is very popular with guys who cannot handle the possibility of being rejected in real life, in a public setting. So they remain behind their screen, tap tapping away in frustration.

So, develop a thicker skin and get out there in the real world and approach women or go to parties with an RSVP list if you don't like totally cold approaches.

These whining posts are just a way to make excuses for your lack of results when you aren't really trying anything else.
I go to bars, clubs, concerts, sports events, parties, festivals, vacations 12+ times a year, etc..., etc... etc... Money is not an object to me so I try to be in social situations 24-7

approaching and asking women out at all these events is immensely difficult

in real life, the process is extremely difficult. With online dating, the process is easy but results are impossible
 

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Women do have better odds and more options with online dating than men do, I think we are all in agreement with that for the most part. IMO, though, the reason they may complain about online dating is because even though they may get 100+ messages from really good men in a single day, the men who they think they are entitled to aren't in that 100 because they aren't using online dating at all.
so 8/10 men are not good enough for 5/10 females nowadays huh?

they all want the same 0.01% of men
 

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that's a common myth

I saw an experiment done once using pics of a 6/10 female. She had tons of messages from 8+/10 men with legit, thoughtful, mature openers
You are talking about a man pretending to be a woman. I am talking about real women, real life, and what actually happens
 

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You are talking about a man pretending to be a woman. I am talking about real women, real life, and what actually happens
yea what actually happens is most 5+ women get tons of legit messages from men far FAR superior to themselves in every way
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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First off, most women b*tch that most guys never measure up to what they make themselves out to be online. Probably more than 70% of the guys on these sites are pathetic to just mediocre to begin with. Half of the guys left after that are full of sh*t.

Second, I really don't get how guys can sit here and crow about how they would "rather approach women in real life". I'm sorry, are you chained down in your living room as soon as you put an ad up online? You do know you can do both, right?

Third, just because you attract garbage online doesn't mean we all do. My Friday night is looking good so far. Match date got her hair done and is excited, and I finally found my Angel's Envy at the liquor store. Sh*t's gonna get crazy tonight.

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say what?

i browsed male section of match.com once and the men were far more attractive/better shape/more successful/etc... than women are

You guys are living in fantasy land. It's better being a woman in dating world in every way imaginable. Unfortunately, most guys on dating sites are not like me (I'm holding out for someone in my league), which is why all these 8+/10 men are willing to date 5/10 single moms. Desperation is a hell of a drug.
 

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You seem to really be into these "superior men." They are so much hotter than those yucky women, aren't they?
huh?

I'm judging both genders objectively. An 8/10 woman is an 8/10 woman. 8/10 male is 8/10 male. The difference is the 8 women on dating sites want 10/10 males while many of the 8/10 males date total garbage
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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