picard
Master Don Juan
why do single women tend to seduce married men all the time?
I know a few married guys who were seduced by single women.
I know a few married guys who were seduced by single women.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
The opposite is also true: the guy could be taken BECAUSE he's more desireable and valuable.FairShake said:Being taken makes a man more desirable. It gives him some value
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
The boss is the alpha male of the group. Sometimes called the "Situational Alpha" because he is the alpha in that situation. And we know women have a tendency to go for the leader.check out the proportion of Women who have slept with their boss.
I agree with you of course, but I should point out that if you have one steady girlfriend the effect is the same: you know who you are fvcking that night.This dynamic is exactly why I advocate Plate Theory. A guy with a rotation of 2-3 reliable girls isn't going to care about how a 4th girl responds to his Alpha confidence, not matter how shocking, because he knows who he's ƒucking that night.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177311picard said:why do single women tend to seduce married men all the time?
I know a few married guys who were seduced by single women.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
The problem is that MANY married cheaters do JUST THAT.Mike32ct said:5. Since he's taken, she can have finally have discreet no strings sex. He has every reason to keep things quiet and most of all, he won't turn into a Stage 4 clinger (i.e. turn really needy) like some single guys after they get laid.
Excellent analysis!Mike32ct said:It's a combination of things.
1. People who are "taken" are usually very confident around the opposite sex because they usually aren't trying to pick someone up. So a married guy is a breath of fresh air to her compared to the all the nervous horny single guys trying desperately to get into her pants. This is attractive.
2. If a woman was willing to marry (and presumably have sex with him), then he must have something going for him. This gives him value.
3. He must have some experience with women and sex.
4. It's taboo. The idea of her being attractive enough to get a married guy to cheat turns her on.
5. Since he's taken, she can have finally have discreet no strings sex. He has every reason to keep things quiet and most of all, he won't turn into a Stage 4 clinger (i.e. turn really needy) like some single guys after they get laid.
6. A married guy is probably a much lower STD risk (than a random bar guy) since he has presumably been in a monogamous relationship for a while. So she'll probably raw dog him.
There's one more angle I'd add that relates to your #5. That angle is power.Mike32ct said:5. Since he's taken, she can have finally have discreet no strings sex. He has every reason to keep things quiet and most of all, he won't turn into a Stage 4 clinger (i.e. turn really needy) like some single guys after they get laid.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You're from Australia? Hell, for all we know, that may be true over there. Different continents definitely equal different cultures.jophil28 said:I absolutely disagree that single women fuk married men "all the time".
Most single women I know would studiously avoid hitting on a married man even though she might be attracted to him. I have seen a few women go for some mild flirting but it usually stops there.
Just because his "indifference" may push her buttons does not mean that she will act on her feelings.
Another urban myth in my opinion
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.jophil28 said:I absolutely disagree that single women fuk married men "all the time".
Most single women I know would studiously avoid hitting on a married man even though she might be attracted to him. I have seen a few women go for some mild flirting but it usually stops there.
Just because his "indifference" may push her buttons does not mean that she will act on her feelings.
Another urban myth in my opinion
I think it depends on the woman.jophil28 said:I absolutely disagree that single women fuk married men "all the time".
Most single women I know would studiously avoid hitting on a married man even though she might be attracted to him. I have seen a few women go for some mild flirting but it usually stops there.
Just because his "indifference" may push her buttons does not mean that she will act on her feelings.
Another urban myth in my opinion
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.