battle_sheep
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Seriously, I just can talk to them!
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I havnt done anything with a girl before....failBrighty said:It might be related to how comfortable you are sexually and if you're afraid of things escalating. I know its a personal question, but how far have you gone with a girl before?
battle_sheep said:I havnt done anything with a girl before....fail
I cant believe I dont have the courage to meet new girls, I cant pinpoint the problem
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Brighty said:I used to be in the same boat and, at least for me, when a girl was genuinely interested in me, I was sort of put off because I was insecure with myself sexually (lol, it sounds weird, but there was nothing wrong with me... just stereotypical teenage anxiety) because I had never really gone past second base before with a girl and I was nervous about the whole deal subconsciously (you know, worried about how I'd preform, etc). Of course this reflected on myself and it ended up killing my game.
I also felt the same nervousness when a really hot girl started responding to my game for the first time, I was doing a double-take and asking myself if this was really possible that I was pulling this kind of girl. I felt a lot of different things - that it was a fluke, that she was using me for something, that I didn't deserve her, it was too good to be true, etc - and a bunch of other stupid shyt. As a result (unfortunately this happened a few times before my subconscious finally realized that I could pull really attractive girls that were previously out of my league) I either ****blocked myself, got too nervous, lost my game because "everything was going too perfect and I didnt want to fyck it up", etc.
I hope maybe you can relate to those examples. If you don't think either of the examples are the reasons why you're shy around girls that like you, I would try to examine just exactly why you are shy around them. Find the cause and ask yourself how to overcome it. In my case, it took a couple tries, and it took repetition with a few different girls to finally desensitize myself and break free and allow a girl to get to know me intimately.
One last word of advice; I would suggest stopping masturbating if you haven't already. Try to go a week without doing it and see if that doesn't drastically improve your confidence and game (I had amazing results when I tried it, even for just a week, I highly reccomend it).
HOT_CHILLI said:hey i hate to kind of disrupt the thread but Brighty if you're really 18 and successful with girls can you please tell me how you got to where you are now? Im 17 had a 5-7 girls ask me out/me ask them out in my lifetime but i want to learn how to attract these women and actually get far with them.
Its just that a lot of these posts are written by older people, perhaps around 25-35 and so a lot of these things dont always apply to the younger girls?
i want to know what things you read, watched, listened to, studied or just plain DID to get girls attracted to you and progress into relationships.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
battle_sheep said:Im speachless, these posts rocked the sh!t!
Heres one thing:
Ive read WMS, DJ Bible, everything you can think of, I read the material and im like "wow this **** is awesome" but once im done reading, I forget everything I just read and keep on with my normal self...
any ideas?
battle_sheep said:Thank you nicelift for that post, it make so much sense, and to Brighty for the awesome advice, im using all this information![]()