"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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why do i attract the fat and ugly girls???

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ok, without being up myself i consider myself a great catch. im young im in shape im far from ugly and i have no problem getting girls, but my problem is i also attract the fatties and ugly chicks too.
so many times ive been ****blocked by the warpigs because they have the hots for me and dont want me to get with their friends and i dont get it. i would never get with these girls as i have high standards. i have a feeling its because im a really nice person to everyone and maybe they take this the wrong way? if anyone could help me understand why i attract them and how i can firmly let them know that im not attracted to them without being mean that would be great. thx all
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You may be missing signals from the hotties that they are interested-they don't need to do as much to attract a guy. The less desirable women have to go out on a limb like a guy does,to make it obvious that they are willing.
 

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Good. You're moving up the ladder.

Keep working on the game and improving yourself and you'll see that cuter girls will take a liking to you too.

Congratulations on this first step.
 

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well thx for the link that helps but my dilemma is i DO get hot girls but i also get alot of attention from fat chicks and ugly chicks when they are clearly not in my league and i dont know how to let them know nicely that they are not in my league
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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dj ben2 said:
well thx for the link that helps but my dilemma is i DO get hot girls but i also get alot of attention from fat chicks and ugly chicks when they are clearly not in my league and i dont know how to let them know nicely that they are not in my league
You don't. You talk to them, be civil and then do something else. Pay no attention to their chase. You focus on who you want and ignore what you don't.

Works for me. If they get really annoying I have to use more aggressive tactics... like going out of my way just to talk to them. I find that giving them monologues about topics like politics, engineering, science, pandemics... and other boring topics are great to shut down that attraction.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
You don't. You talk to them, be civil and then do something else. Pay no attention to their chase. You focus on who you want and ignore what you don't.

Works for me. If they get really annoying I have to use more aggressive tactics... like going out of my way just to talk to them. I find that giving them monologues about topics like politics, engineering, science, pandemics... and other boring topics are great to shut down that attraction.
I made a thread about this topic myself a while back.

I like that second paragraph Alle. I gotta try that one!
 

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nismo-4 said:
I like that second paragraph Alle. I gotta try that one!
It's super effective. But it might take a few applications. At first, the girls are so glad that you're finally paying attention to them, but after awhile the feeling of doom begins to sink in. I do my best to make sure that I'm doing at least 90% of the rambling with these monologues.

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Alle_Gory said:
It's super effective. But it might take a few applications. At first, the girls are so glad that you're finally paying attention to them, but after awhile the feeling of doom begins to sink in. I do my best to make sure that I'm doing at least 90% of the rambling with these monologues.

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ROTFLMAO!!! It's super effective!

@ the OP, remember that some female attention is better than none. This will slowly but surely move you up the scale, as pre-selection can be helpful.
 

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sodbuster said:
You may be missing signals from the hotties that they are interested-they don't need to do as much to attract a guy. The less desirable women have to go out on a limb like a guy does,to make it obvious that they are willing.
Some darn good advice right there. The hotties don't have to be overt to signal their interest, or don't even notice you because they're fending off the 5-10 guys slathering them with attention at any given moment, figuratively speaking.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If I wanted to let a woman know I'm not interested.

I would probably

A) Stare off into space or act like I'm waiting for someone.

B) Respond with one-word answers.

But normally I just make small talk regardless of if I'm attracted to the chick or not. I treat everybody with respect. It's just universal and of course good conversation practice.
 

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Just a tip, when you're backed up against a wall and a fattie/uggo is talking your ear off, when you see a hottie walk by excuse yourself from the nottie, and swift and subtly tell the hottie "pretend like you know me, that girl just won't leave me alone" or something to that effect. It's a sweet situational opener that capitalizes on your preselection at that moment in time.
 
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