"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Why do I always feel the need to over communicate with new girls??

jackhamma

Don Juan
Joined
May 20, 2014
Messages
86
Reaction score
1
I meet a new girl thats potential dating material. I end up finding out she likes me, then all of sudden I turn off smooth mode and feel the need to message through out the day, text goodnight etc.

Is it better/more to my advantage to NOT be so "in contact" in the early stages??

Please guide me..
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

El Payaso

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2014
Messages
3,621
Reaction score
2,624
At least you're aware of you're behavior which it's good. The best thing to do is just stop yourself anytime you notice yourself going down that path.
 

Peaks&Valleys

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 11, 2013
Messages
1,956
Reaction score
355
Scarcity mentality. Outcome dependence.

That's it. Relax my friend. You have to lean to just not give a fvck, and they will respond warmly.
 

Krueg

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 6, 2012
Messages
1,278
Reaction score
134
Age
37
Its okay to talk to them, just dont tell them your life story! Keep the focus on her and ask questions about her. But you need to keep some mystery about you. Don't want to come off as Nice Guy You wanna see if she will stick around or not..
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

skinnyguy

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 2, 2013
Messages
3,422
Reaction score
1,235
And now you're overthinking it.

Stop caring about what she thinks. Do exactly what you want, and if she doesn't like it, she's not right for you.
 

jaygreenb

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
1,155
Reaction score
583
Less is more, in the beginning I would not intitiate contact more than once per week. If she reaches out to you in between you can reply, just don't get to over eager. Some real easy rules to follow until it becomes second nature with talking/texting:

Only text/call to set up dates. Do this max once a week at first.
Never text her more than once without a response.
Let her send the last text of the conversation (you end it).
Keep your texts light/fun and unemotional, no sappy crap. So never never talk about your feelings for her, let her set the pace for that.
 

latinnova

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 21, 2014
Messages
294
Reaction score
33
Jay Green and everyone else is dead on. The fewer the better, especially in the beginning. If they get all sappy on you, be clever and find a response that is not sappy or offensive. If you don't respond at all to it they might get offended.
However, I have had on for the past few weeks that likes to talk dirty about the coming up weekends, and I text her back and she loves it, gets her all riled up about the weekend. Just try to read the chick. But in the beggining, ya, the less you text or message her, the better.
 

BetterCallSaul

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 25, 2014
Messages
855
Reaction score
373
Location
Texas
jackhamma said:
I meet a new girl thats potential dating material. I end up finding out she likes me, then all of sudden I turn off smooth mode and feel the need to message through out the day, text goodnight etc.

Is it better/more to my advantage to NOT be so "in contact" in the early stages??

Please guide me..
It's because you're insecure. If you're drowning in pvssy on a regular basis, you think you'd have the time to pour your feelings out to every new girl you meet?
 

jackhamma

Don Juan
Joined
May 20, 2014
Messages
86
Reaction score
1
Thanks guys for the blunt responses. I am really trying to work out getting back into the old mindset.

My problem is when I pursue multiple women I get obsessed with wanting more and more, to the point where I am going on a few dates a week and it is never enough. When I am not chasing multiple women and I do come across one I get that needy feeling of having to text etc like Harry said.

How do you find a balance? I have friends where I can't see them all the time because every weekend ALL they want to do is chase pussay. 24/7 no matter what we are doing it HAS to have women or they aren't down. Thats how I use to be and it started to become insane.

Part of the problem was I worked at home the past 2 years, so I had A LOT of time sitting around. The past 2 months I am finally employed at a fast pace sales job working 60hrs a week which is great. Started the gym up to get my gains back, but even looking around the gym all I can think about is slamming the women in there lol..

Is this all normal? Am I wrong?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Bokanovsky

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 7, 2012
Messages
5,512
Reaction score
5,692
Because you are needy, insecure, care too much and feel obligated to qualify yourself to others. I'm guessing you are also not a busy guy (you wouldn't have time for this kind if sh!t if you were).

Not trying to insult you, just saying it how I see it.
 
Top