MightyMate
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Cheating doesnt hurt cheater the most. It hurts more to be cheaten if You dint cheat than to cheat. Trust me.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
That was all me a few months ago.Originally posted by TheTrimReaper
It's passive aggressive. And unfortunately that's where women are heading as a whole these days. You ask them if there is anyone else and they say 'no'....When there definitely is. They end the relationship with you at 6 and are in his arms by 7.
Which really SUCKS for those of us who take their commitments seriously.People don't think about the benefits of commitment as much anymore. People are treated as expendable more and more often.
I am thinking the same thing. My problem is that I actually have a conscience and would feel like sh!t the first time I really screw someone over. I'm just not like that, maybe I need to be a little more ruthless.I'm not going to let that keep me from enjoying my life though. I can't change how people are behaving. I'll just join them.
I think pretty much everyone I know is in the same boat. The only ones who think otherwise are the ignorant youngsters who have yet to be burned.Don't think that my experience is the exception. I really don't think it is. And if you think that your girl is different and that she would never cheat on you, then you are one dumb SOB. I'll let you in on a secret. Every woman is like this. If you don't think so, then prove I'm wrong.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Originally posted by TheTrimReaper
I'm not going to let that keep me from enjoying my life though. I can't change how people are behaving. I'll just join them.
Don't think that my experience is the exception. I really don't think it is. And if you think that your girl is different and that she would never cheat on you, then you are one dumb SOB. I'll let you in on a secret. Every woman is like this. If you don't think so, then prove I'm wrong.
I agree.Originally posted by SAYNO
No, choose the harder route, Choose to be honest sincere and noble, those are they traits of a real man!
Sayno'
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
you're so evil and cold dude. i like you.Originally posted by MightyMate
Bollox. Real man can cheat and not feel guilty.
bumpMightyMate said:Cheating doesnt hurt cheater the most. It hurts more to be cheaten if You dint cheat than to cheat. Trust me.
Wow I can't believe you actually typed out all of those lines, you must be bored as hell! I agree with MightyMate a man can cheat and feel nothing at all. I also don't agree that all cheating is the same. For instance, I was away on a business trip, I stopped in the hotel bar and there was a nice looking woman at the bar. We have a few drinks, share a few laughs and engage in an exciting stimulating conversation. It's getting late and I have an early morning flight. The woman is a slightly tipsy and so am I. She is totally diggin my Dj charm and I am totally digging the dumper on this chick who looks like Vida Guerra's twin sister (from the back). As she excuses herself to go into the empty hotel bathroom, feeling ****y and confident, I follow her into the stall. I then proceed to bend her over the toilet and pound that ass from Da' back! I flush the rubber (which I bought in a vending machine), pull up my pants, walk out of the bathroom, pay for the drinks (in cash) and go to bed so I can catch my 8 am flight.darkstarrr said:bump
Legendary thread minus the 3 previous posts.
If you were to graph the effects of cheating on a line chart, the cheater would suffer the most consequences over time - nice and steady like an ocean wave's wave. They always end up paying somehow.But the cheatee, as MightyMate describes suffers a huge spike. Although that pain and suffering is so intense, it does subside if you take the right steps to become a better person and to meet more suitable partners.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
princelydeeds said:Aside from telling my best friend a funny story, I have zero connection to this chick. We didn't even exchange numbers. Please explain how this hurts me, how this screws up my life and how this makes me need to tell a bunch of lies. I personally can walk away from the situation and outside of having a good memory never think about her again. Had I met the same woman every Wednesday night for 7 years, while my significant other thinks I'm at bible study, I can understand your case for lies and hurting yourself etc. A random fling IMHO can be totally harmless and I would even make the argument that in some cases, it helps people appreciate what they have at home.
MightyMate said:Bollox. Real man can cheat and not feel guilty.
Great post and so true.WestCoaster said:Question from above: Does a man need to tell a woman why he is breaking up? Yes. The woman should get an answer. If you can't sit through women's tears or drama, you're a pus-y. I've been through a helluva lot more than women's tears in my life.
Just be a man. Cheating is the first sign of being a p-ssy.
Some options and ideas:
1. What's wrong with being alone?
2. Why get married if you want to play the field? Because society told you to get married? That's stupid. Society also says sitcoms and fast food should be consumed on a daily basis.
3. Why not date a ton of chicks and tell each one you're playing the field? You'll lose a lot of them, others it won't bother.
Why not just be a man and be honest? Either get married and be faithful or decide not to get married and play the field. I have more respect for hookers than I do people who cheat, I really do. The difference is the hooker is honest about who she is.
Just be honest and forthright -- why not?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.