"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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why can i only be c&f to some women but not all?

sharkbeat

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Why is that I can be c&f and playful to certain girls but not all?
For example, this is a convo I had with one girl:

Her: can I hit you?
Sb: I'm cute. You can't hit me.
Her: I had sushi with alcohol. I feel like punching somebody.
Sb: right. Blame it on the alcohol.
Her. Please please.
Sb: scary.
Her: scary??
Sb: sneaky.
Her: scary!? Sneaky??? Please..hug hug
Sb: ooo punch!
Her: hey!!

All of these happened without me thinking at all. But with other women I just approached, i can't pull this one off.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheBucketOfTruth

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Well what do you find makes the difference? Describe situations where you might be able to be C&F vs. ones where you wouldn't be.
 

Jitterbug

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Don't treat C&F like a hammer, and every interaction you have with women like nails.
 

jophil28

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Jitterbug said:
Don't treat C&F like a hammer, and every interaction you have with women like nails.
Yes, most guys overuse C&F and try to make it their new conversational style. Consequently, they rapid fire.

****y/ funny was never designed to replace your natural convo style. It works best as a well placed addition - like salt and pepper on a good steak.
 

Kailex

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I've found that C&F is sensed as irritating when a woman has been drinking.

C&F is meant to break down the shield.
Alcohol already did that for you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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st_99

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it sounds like you just cant be yourself and completely relaxed around better looking girls. Thats kind of what it sounds like you're saying, its common.

If thats what it is, its just simply lack of experience dealing with
hot girls.
 

squirrels

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Self-confidence?

C&F is easy with:

- Girls you aren't trying to hook up with
- Girls that you feel you "deserve" to hook up with

If you try that stuff with a girl that you have on a pedestal above you somewhere in terms of value estimation, you're not going to be able to sell it. It'll look to her like what it is...a "cheap trick".

Stop using "C&F". Be c*cky. Be funny. And if the situation doesn't warrant it...don't.
 
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