"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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why C&F isnt working

DavenJuan

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I have been noticing quite a few threads being started about C&F. If you do a search or even just take a look at new posts you see it all the time lately...

How to convey C&F

Negging and C&F not working

I am coming off to strong and look like an jerk

...the problem with this is that people are TRYING to convey and come across with something that is completely unnatural to them.

C&F works PERFECTLY for me because that is just apart of my OVERALL personality. If i am in a conversation and i use it, it is natural.

now on the other hand if I were in mid conversation and decided to stop speaking and use a silent aggressive type attitude it wouldnt be natural and come off extremely "weird".

IMO, its not a switch that you can cut on and off in the middle of a conversation, thats why some of you seem to be looking like arses.

a couple other things...

If you arent really that comfortable using a little C&F, try to be careful what you are saying to people sometimes until you are comfortable. For example dont make fun of anything that seems personal. Material things are pretty easy to tease people about.

the bottom line is you have to gradually get comfortable. and if its not something that fits your specific personality, then you will always come off weird, a jerk, and anything else that i have been reading in some threads.

your thoughts welcome..
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ready123

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yeah it's all about congruency

C&F is one many tricks to cultivate attraction, but it's gotta feel natural for the guy doing it - it's gotta be congruent with your personality and what you find fun to do in an interaction

on top of that, a lot of guys end up misapplying these tricks because they don't understand when to use them
 

War Against Betaism

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Yeah seriously, don't even listen to David D when he tells you to constantly just bust her balls, he must be workin' with those freaky freaky girls but for most of us it's a different story.
 

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David Deangelo is a virgin. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
 

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Yeah, you don't want to come off as mean. Pick your spots and make your C&F more of a teasing manner than crude...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ChrizZ said:
David Deangelo is a virgin. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
I said it before . . . What good does it do to double your dating if you're currently dating zero?
 

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Confident Entertaining is more accurate than ****y funny
 

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Dongfu said:
Confident Entertaining is more accurate than ****y funny
I agree, sometimes people try to be witty funny ( **** & funny) with everything they say and chicks realize this and can be redundant....boring.
 
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