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To be honest, I didn't even watch the video.. but if there is one thing I've learned, it's to watch a woman's ACTIONS not her WORDS.

When it comes to topics of what women want in a man, I just assume it's all BS. I'm sure there is some sprinkles of truth in it, but too many times have I seen a woman say they want one thing, and then go and do something completely contradictory days later.
 

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To be honest, I didn't even watch the video.. but if there is one thing I've learned, it's to watch a woman's ACTIONS not her WORDS.

When it comes to topics of what women want in a man, I just assume it's all BS. I'm sure there is some sprinkles or truth in it, but too many times have I seen a woman say they want one thing, and then go and do something completely contradictory days later.
Do you have any anecdotes of this contradiction off the top of your head? it's always interesting to read that kind of stuff.
 

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Do you have any anecdotes of this contradiction off the top of your head? it's always interesting to read that kind of stuff.
I've noticed that woman who do the most slvt-shaming are often times huge slvts themselves. It's as if they feel guilty about their past, so they tear down other women who do the exact same behavior they do. They'll preach all day about how all girls are trashy, cheating hos, and how she "is different", but she's not. She is literally just describing herself. I actually get excited when I see a woman doing this, because I know it's an easy lay. All you gotta do is say "Yeah baby, I know you ain't like those other girls.." while at the same time you're slipping your hands down her pants, and she has no problem with it. Once again, actions not words.

I'd say the most golden example though, is the one where women say they "want a good guy" and then end up hooking up with the bad boy. Women will say they want a guy who loves them unconditionally, showers them with affection, buys them candies and stuffed bears, surprises them with chocolates, loyal to them, yada yada.. but then always end up with guys who treat them like trash. Why is that?
 

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So women fantasize about a strong, masculine leader who is unapologetic about his sexuality - and what he does, and more specifically what he wants to do is to touch their cl1t in some way, rather than fvck them vaginally? Or is it a combination? What is it? Is it that touching their cl1t can be a fantasy for them because it makes them feel like the man owns their body, and this is what the man is supposed to find arousing too? I want to know exactly what it is and how it is supposed to add up.
It’s dominating them. That’s why women search up porn that shows violence against women (e.g. keywords “rape”, “gangbang”, “forced”, etc.) more often than men do. You can find the Pornhub infographs online lol
 

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It’s dominating them. That’s why women search up porn that shows violence against women (e.g. keywords “rape”, “gangbang”, “forced”, etc.) more often than men do. You can find the Pornhub infographs online lol
So like Scars you think the real culprit behind the orgasm gap is not a lack of cl1toral stimulation like the video woman does, but a lack of dominant/aggressive masculinity in vaginal sex?

Do you think women fantasize about dominant, aggressive, masculine men stimulating them cl1torally? Do you think women want the men they desire to fantasize about stimulating women cl1torally?
 

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Understood. I'm not downplaying the problem. I'm just saying that women with that problem won't necessarily give up on men because of it. They probably still get some pleasure out of sex, just not what they want.

Or they are the "gambler in a losing streak" who keeps playing hoping their luck will turn around.
Not just that, but some of them just like the raunchiness of it. The feeling of getting ****ed lol. Just bc they don’t orgasm doesn’t mean they don’t enjoy the feeling of “getting done” by a man lol
 

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I've noticed that woman who do the most slvt-shaming are often times huge slvts themselves. It's as if they feel guilty about their past, so they tear down other women who do the exact same behavior they do. They'll preach all day about how all girls are trashy, cheating hos, and how she "is different", but she's not. She is literally just describing herself. I actually get excited when I see a woman doing this, because I know it's an easy lay. All you gotta do is say "Yeah baby, I know you ain't like those other girls.." while at the same time you're slipping your hands down her pants, and she has no problem with it. Once again, actions not words.

I'd say the most golden example though, is the one where women say they "want a good guy" and then end up hooking up with the bad boy. Women will say they want a guy who loves them unconditionally, showers them with affection, buys them candies and stuffed bears, surprises them with chocolates, loyal to them, yada yada.. but then always end up with guys who treat them like trash. Why is that?
Pook talked about this. It’s because they want all those sweet, caring, sensitive qualities but in a man who still has strength like the bad boy does. Just because they want you to bring them chocolate every once in a while doesn’t mean they want you to be a doormat. Just because they want you to treat them well doesn’t mean they don’t you to dominate them i.e. show them your strength. Just because they want to see your sensitive side doesn’t mean wuss. Do things out of strength, always. That’s the secret of the douchebag.

Or as it’s written in Pook’s posts/book—The Secret of the Jerk.
 

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That is why I always say if you spend time learning to be good at sex you will never have to worry about not having it available...they will seek you out.
 

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So like Scars you think the real culprit behind the orgasm gap is not a lack of cl1toral stimulation like the video woman does, but a lack of dominant/aggressive masculinity in vaginal sex?
You have to understand here that when it comes to topics like these that demonstrate sexual dimorphism like this, women are never going to be direct. They’re not going to say that they like to dominated, they’re going to say that they men need to stimulate the **** more; they’re not going to say they want to be pounded hard, they’re going to say that men need to learn where the g-spot is; they’re not gonna say they they want to be spanked or get their hair pulled without asking, they’re going to say they want men to take initiative more.

When the woman in the video (not that I’ve watched it either lol but I already know just based off of how women are) says that men need to stimulate the **** more, all that means is that she wants to feel more pleasure and sensation. This can be done by say, directly stimulating the ****, or by simply grabbing/groping her more.

What I mean is, she doesn’t just want you to just bang her missionary while you put your thumb on her **** and move it around in circles like that; she wants you to pound her spooning while you have one arm wrapped around her neck like she can’t escape, with the hand (on that same arm) grabbing a tit, while your other hand plays with her ****. Bonus points for whispering dirty **** in her ear. It’ll look like this:

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This is dominating her and making her feel all sorts of sensations. The other way is bland. They both stimulate her ****, but one is better than the other. They just want to feel more sensations; orgasms are just an aspect of feeling more.

Do you think women fantasize about dominant, aggressive, masculine men stimulating them cl1torally? Do you think women want the men they desire to fantasize about stimulating women cl1torally?
It’s not about the **** so much as it is being ‘taken’:

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It’s not that they fantasize being ****orally stimulated, it’s that they fantasize about being dominated and overpowered, so to speak. That doesn’t mean you go out and rape a woman, but if you know she likes you and you’re both about have sex, she wants to feel your strength. The **** is just one way of doing so because it’s forcing her body to orgasm ‘against her will’ (even though she clearly loves it). It’s hard to explain, really. But again, it’s not so much about being ****orally stimulated as it is being dominated/‘taken’ and made to feel just a lot more things in general.
 

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Women experience three problems: Most don't orgasm vaginally and so suffer an orgasm gap with men, they stop wanting sex with their husbands in long term relationships, and they are oppressed in intimate relations with men.

So why are they with men at all? Instead they can have sex with each other, stop wanting sex with each other mutually, and form families with each other and sperm donors instead of men. What is it that makes women be with men at all, when the association only seems to be problematic?

The catalyst for this thread was watching a video on the orgasm gap between men and women in sex, particularly in casual sex. It made me question what the point of being with women is when every step of the way before (all the work and sacrifice you have to put in to draw blood out of rocks), during (she's just putting up with vaginal sex) and after sex (boredom, stress, depression, loneliness and frustration in the relationship that'll be taken out on you, and a dead bedroom) with them is so problematic. It also made me question why then women keep having vaginal sex and hooking up if they are just enduring it.

Here's the specific video:

You're overthinking it, and putting the cart before the horse. You're a young guy, and still in school. Even if you met a terrific girl, right now, the relationship would probably just derail your studies and career.

Forget about women. Be moderately sociable, but be an absolute beast about your studies, and then career. You don't want to be in a serious relationship until you're established on your career path.

Be sociable, but serious about your studies and career, and ignore women. They'll be chasing you in a few years, anyway.
 

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Women experience three problems: Most don't orgasm vaginally and so suffer an orgasm gap with men, they stop wanting sex with their husbands in long term relationships, and they are oppressed in intimate relations with men.

So why are they with men at all? Instead they can have sex with each other, stop wanting sex with each other mutually, and form families with each other and sperm donors instead of men. What is it that makes women be with men at all, when the association only seems to be problematic?

The catalyst for this thread was watching a video on the orgasm gap between men and women in sex, particularly in casual sex. It made me question what the point of being with women is when every step of the way before (all the work and sacrifice you have to put in to draw blood out of rocks), during (she's just putting up with vaginal sex) and after sex (boredom, stress, depression, loneliness and frustration in the relationship that'll be taken out on you, and a dead bedroom) with them is so problematic. It also made me question why then women keep having vaginal sex and hooking up if they are just enduring it.

Here's the specific video:

I did not watch all of this but i can tell you its bs
She is mostly discounting biology in this, ridiculous.......

Its all about evolutive behavioral biology sex as many purpose they are mostly deep down about better reproduction success.
Its is used as a mate retention tool it can also be use as a way to hide pregnancy from infidelity.


Many more reason , we do things on a much more instinctively level than we would like to think.



Here is a video about humans reproductive behaviors

Its good af
 

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I've noticed that woman who do the most slvt-shaming are often times huge slvts themselves. It's as if they feel guilty about their past, so they tear down other women who do the exact same behavior they do. They'll preach all day about how all girls are trashy, cheating hos, and how she "is different", but she's not. She is literally just describing herself. I actually get excited when I see a woman doing this, because I know it's an easy lay. All you gotta do is say "Yeah baby, I know you ain't like those other girls.." while at the same time you're slipping your hands down her pants, and she has no problem with it. Once again, actions not words.

I'd say the most golden example though, is the one where women say they "want a good guy" and then end up hooking up with the bad boy. Women will say they want a guy who loves them unconditionally, showers them with affection, buys them candies and stuffed bears, surprises them with chocolates, loyal to them, yada yada.. but then always end up with guys who treat them like trash. Why is that?
Very good stuff there.

The insult people use Slut Shaming is a good example are the insult they usually know would work on them.

They usually shame with what they think would be shaming to them... this can tell you on how some people think.
 

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Half of the women I had sex with never came yet came for more...ok guess you got what I meant.

Climax is the necessary part for a man to appreciate an intercourse cause thats litteraly 90% of the point and if we dont achieve it we are worse than before while for women its not that.

They have so much mind and feelings in sex that climaxing is the bonus but not the main part, even the fact of having a man inside them and being really close to each other is pleasure fo them.

Some women also love to be manhandled which is something I do really well and that push them to come back when they dont come.
 

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A man needs balance with the way he treats a/his woman. He must invoke the feelings of an alternate state of mind, or provide the feelings of someone she is not. In no particular order, a man should make a woman feel like a...

-Daughter
-Lady
-*****

Significant imbalance in any of these three will result disrespect or disgust
 

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You have to understand here that when it comes to topics like these that demonstrate sexual dimorphism like this, women are never going to be direct. They’re not going to say that they like to dominated, they’re going to say that they men need to stimulate the **** more; they’re not going to say they want to be pounded hard, they’re going to say that men need to learn where the g-spot is; they’re not gonna say they they want to be spanked or get their hair pulled without asking, they’re going to say they want men to take initiative more.

When the woman in the video (not that I’ve watched it either lol but I already know just based off of how women are) says that men need to stimulate the **** more, all that means is that she wants to feel more pleasure and sensation. This can be done by say, directly stimulating the ****, or by simply grabbing/groping her more.

What I mean is, she doesn’t just want you to just bang her missionary while you put your thumb on her **** and move it around in circles like that; she wants you to pound her spooning while you have one arm wrapped around her neck like she can’t escape, with the hand (on that same arm) grabbing a tit, while your other hand plays with her ****. Bonus points for whispering dirty **** in her ear. It’ll look like this:

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This is dominating her and making her feel all sorts of sensations. The other way is bland. They both stimulate her ****, but one is better than the other. They just want to feel more sensations; orgasms are just an aspect of feeling more.


It’s not about the **** so much as it is being ‘taken’:

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It’s not that they fantasize being ****orally stimulated, it’s that they fantasize about being dominated and overpowered, so to speak. That doesn’t mean you go out and rape a woman, but if you know she likes you and you’re both about have sex, she wants to feel your strength. The **** is just one way of doing so because it’s forcing her body to orgasm ‘against her will’ (even though she clearly loves it). It’s hard to explain, really. But again, it’s not so much about being ****orally stimulated as it is being dominated/‘taken’ and made to feel just a lot more things in general.
Thats me
 

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Understood. I'm not downplaying the problem. I'm just saying that women with that problem won't necessarily give up on men because of it. They probably still get some pleasure out of sex, just not what they want.

Or they are the "gambler in a losing streak" who keeps playing hoping their luck will turn around.
Like men do on effed up women.
 
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