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Why attractiveness rating in men is a coping mechanism

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Many members in here like to throw the black pill arguments that if they are not minimum an 8, they won't be able to get women. What they don't know is that they might be already a 7 without realizing it. I've read in researches that men when ask what rating they are, they tend to underestimate themselves, but women tend to overestimate themselves.

Everything that you measure follows a normal distribution, where most people cluster in the middle, its the law, you can't change it. We know we are attracted by a hot piece of a$$ and a nice attitude. I will focus on what typically is attractive to women, in terms of rating so you can understand.

1. Lets say this woman wants to fvck you, she will focused on physique, face and game.

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Lets take the guys on number 5 face wise, . This row will benefit with facial hair (if) and a better haircut that suits them, with a nice lean physique will improve 1 point, with game, charm and knows how to carry himself, another point, with his $hit together, ambition, drive, that's another point; mentally attune, traumas resolved, emotional intelligence, that's another point.

Right there I showed you how you can be a 9/10 guy. What is preventing you from becoming a 9/10 guy?

PS: I'm sure some feathers of the same bird will point out that not everything has the same value weight. To those I say, there is no salvation for you.
 

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I have the experience that probably many others have in that some good looking women go crazy for me while others seem repulsed by me.

I've had women that I would consider very attractive tell me they thought I was hot and others tell me they thought I was ugly.

What you rank is always up to the individual women and her preferences. I'm an acquired taste apparently.

Obviously there are some guys who are extremely good looking that are almost universally considered hot by women.

I'm not one of those by a long shot...that being said, most guys aren't.

I've often said that most guys can get far hotter women than they think and if they would actually go after them they would probably be shocked at how many were open to dating them.

The problem is that too many men limit themselves based on what they think they can get without actually even trying.
 

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I have the experience that probably many others have in that some good looking women go crazy for me while others seem repulsed by me.

I've had women that I would consider very attractive tell me they thought I was hot and others tell me they thought I was ugly.
For what it’s worth, I never had anyone tell me I was ugly.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The problem is that too many men limit themselves based on what they think they can get without actually even trying.
Definitely. Everyhting is an excuse.

Getting to an objective 7 or 8 is not hard for most men. Then what comes next terrifies them, put themselves out there and face rejection.
 

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On the above chart, I noticed that the >=5 all have hair lol.
Hair is important. You know this, which is why you are most famous on here for the "height, hair, money" saying.

I'm glad that I've made it into my early 40s with minimal hair recission. I am a Norwood 1 or 1.5, Pretty good.
 

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Hair is important. You know this, which is why you are most famous on here for the "height, hair, money" saying.

I'm glad that I've made it into my early 40s with minimal hair recission. I am a Norwood 1 or 1.5, Pretty good.
Yeah that’s really good. I got by just fine up through say Norwood 2, maybe 2.5 max.
 

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I have the experience that probably many others have in that some good looking women go crazy for me while others seem repulsed by me.

I've had women that I would consider very attractive tell me they thought I was hot and others tell me they thought I was ugly.

What you rank is always up to the individual women and her preferences. I'm an acquired taste apparently.

Obviously there are some guys who are extremely good looking that are almost universally considered hot by women.

I'm not one of those by a long shot...that being said, most guys aren't.

I've often said that most guys can get far hotter women than they think and if they would actually go after them they would probably be shocked at how many were open to dating them.

The problem is that too many men limit themselves based on what they think they can get without actually even trying.
From what you’ve written, probably no one thinks you’re ugly, just some who don’t have the hots for you.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Many members in here like to throw the black pill arguments that if they are not minimum an 8, they won't be able to get women.
And they’re wrong considering there are schleps with women. And yes, there are women smitten with their schleps.
 

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And they’re wrong considering there are schleps with women. And yes, there are women smitten with their schleps.
Agree. I would just add that the guy needs to be the “right” kind of schlep. A bad boy schlep certainly works. A nice guy schlep, not so much lol.

The nice guy is usually treated as uglier than he objectively is. This can skew his perception of his looks and push him towards a black pill perspective even if his looks are within the range of normie tier.
 
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I have the experience that probably many others have in that some good looking women go crazy for me while others seem repulsed by me.

I've had women that I would consider very attractive tell me they thought I was hot and others tell me they thought I was ugly.

What you rank is always up to the individual women and her preferences. I'm an acquired taste apparently.

Obviously there are some guys who are extremely good looking that are almost universally considered hot by women.

I'm not one of those by a long shot...that being said, most guys aren't.

I've often said that most guys can get far hotter women than they think and if they would actually go after them they would probably be shocked at how many were open to dating them.

The problem is that too many men limit themselves based on what they think they can get without actually even trying.
I've also noticed that many men rate men how they would rate women which makes me question if they are quasi-homosexulas
while there are some men considered universally or conventionally attractive, there is a flipside that women are also attracted to men that may not fit that bill. Those are the women you should be pursuing, the women that find you attractive and vice Like you I'm an acquired taste I've had some women go loco for me and others do the "ICK" face
It is what it is
 

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Family Feud question with Steve Harvey:

”Name something on a man a woman can tell he is rich by just looking at him.”

1. Car
2. Clothes
3. Jewelry
4. Great Hair

Dont know how jewelry beat height.
 

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The nice guy is usually treated as uglier than he objectively is.
Yes, considering there are ugly and vile criminals on death row flooded with mail from lusting women.
 
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Many members in here like to throw the black pill arguments that if they are not minimum an 8, they won't be able to get women. What they don't know is that they might be already a 7 without realizing it. I've read in researches that men when ask what rating they are, they tend to underestimate themselves, but women tend to overestimate themselves.

Everything that you measure follows a normal distribution, where most people cluster in the middle, its the law, you can't change it. We know we are attracted by a hot piece of a$$ and a nice attitude. I will focus on what typically is attractive to women, in terms of rating so you can understand.

1. Lets say this woman wants to fvck you, she will focused on physique, face and game.

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Lets take the guys on number 5 face wise, . This row will benefit with facial hair (if) and a better haircut that suits them, with a nice lean physique will improve 1 point, with game, charm and knows how to carry himself, another point, with his $hit together, ambition, drive, that's another point; mentally attune, traumas resolved, emotional intelligence, that's another point.

Right there I showed you how you can be a 9/10 guy. What is preventing you from becoming a 9/10 guy?

PS: I'm sure some feathers of the same bird will point out that not everything has the same value weight. To those I say, there is no salvation for you.
The 5’s through 8’s should be 4-7.
 

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Yeah that’s really good. I got by just fine up through say Norwood 2, maybe 2.5 max.
I’m Norwood 4.5 probably, and I believe I would be able to find a woman if I were single. I really think men’s neuroticism is unwarranted in some cases. And I’m not someone who thinks all men can just mindset their way to poon. Just today I saw the FB page of a very pretty woman from my old town and her husband has Norwood Reaper baldness!
 

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Right there I showed you how you can be a 9/10 guy. What is preventing you from becoming a 9/10 guy?
Doesn’t 9 or 10 apply to the most sexually desirable men on earth (eg, Brad Pitt, Mel Gibson, Sean Connery)?
 
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