"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why are you not using Tinder?

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bukowski_merit said:
Perhaps, but what's different from tinder girls getting hit on by 100 random joe blows? And a POF/OKC/Match girl getting hit on by 100 random joe blows? I'd guess the Tinder girl would be more welcoming to it since she's preselecting us.

I have no issues firing up POF or OKC tonight and finding women who are willing to talk and eventually meet up and bang. It's easy on there. But tinder; it's like im pulling teeth to get a conversation going.


Tinder reminds me a lot of Skout (where it's also hard to get a decent conversation going). Maybe it could be the use of chat over email? Skout is also chat based...

I like to know the girl I'm meeting and me already have some form of rapport; especially in flirting area. This makes same night bangs simple... And because of the way I do things - I have very few failed dates.

That's mostly because of my screening process.

If a woman won't participate in it - then we both aren't going to get anywhere. Not giving up on it though.
I've never seen the girl's side of the Tinder experience before but I reckon it's far better than POF or OKC. If an attractive girl joined OKC or worse, POF, it's open season on her a$$. She'll get hounded by almost 20 messages a minute.

On Tinder, she has to swipe through different profiles and CHOOSE who SHE wants to talk to. She still has to wait for those same guys to choose her as well. This simmers down the process and makes it more comfortable for her. She's less likely to get hit on by 20 guys a minute.

Your last few sentences is one of the downsides of Tinder. You don't really know much about them due to short profiles. With conversation though, you can find out a bit which helps.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Big Nuts said:
Any older guys in their 40s using Tinder yet? Or is mainly a teen early 20s thing???

Just wondering?
I have my max age set to 30. The number of 30 year olds and I come across a good number of attractive 30s. However, it's mostly a 20s thing. If you're 40 though, you can search for 20s. A high number of them are down for a mature guy.
 

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Started using it last night, got like six matches so far. Not shabby.

The accidental left swipe on a cute girl when you're trying to see her other pictures, though... that's painful.
 

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noheroes said:
Started using it last night, got like six matches so far. Not shabby.

The accidental left swipe on a cute girl when you're trying to see her other pictures, though... that's painful.
I KNOW!!! Makes you want to stab yourself. Lol. Or the accidental right swipe on the ugly girl or gay guy.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Definitely had one spammer, but going for a drink Thursday with a friend of a friend who matched me on there. Worth the download for a quick introduction at least. I do think there are a lot of fake profiles...
 

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BPH said:
Got a few matches, a couple number from girls I don't want to f*** and 1 attempted scam. The girls that are actually cute take forever to reply.
I feel tempted to try that site out now but at the same time I feel it's mostly guys on there and too many fake women profiles
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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JaegerPilot217 said:
I feel tempted to try that site out now but at the same time I feel it's mostly guys on there and too many fake women profiles
There are a good number of girls. The number of fake women is a small percentage to the number of real women in my experience. This can be location dependent though.
 

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hahaha I just donwloaded this 3 days ago just for fun and im getting some good hits. Got around 11 matches within a few days and most of these girls are pretty cute college girls and are okay to talk to. Not sure whether they gonna be DTF yet. I agree it is better to game girls during the day and build your experience and confidence but I don't see the problem with downloading tinder. Its an easy way to meet cute girls who are down to have fun for the most part. It's a sick app to have if you are travelling to new places around the world and don't know anyone.

Don't allow Tinder or any dating sight be your main source of plates, I just use if cause I have a lot of spare time at work... hahaha
 
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