"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why are women obsessed with clubs and bars

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Their prime hunting grounds if they like the party atmosphere and are currently in the market. Also a source of easy social interaction satisfaction like a restaurant satisfies hunger. OR maybe shes alcoholic and needs company.
Why did you ask this basic question ?
Your primary objective after opening her in a bar interaction is to determine why she's there…
 
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The guys they pick up don't complain. Be one of those guys.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Clubs are amusing to me now because I understand everything that's going on in there.

Guys most often go there because there's a lot of girls there, in some faint hope that they'll get laid. Which means clubs are packed with desperate men. Desperate men go very far to get some pvssy, the women who go to clubs know this.

Women do not primarily go to clubs hoping to get laid (a few do), they can achieve that with a snap of their fingers if they want to. They most often go to have fun, dance and take advantage of desperate men. They amuse themselves by teasing and playing mind games, makes them feel powerful to so easily bend the will of men.

Club women are easy though, they'll take the first man that really stands out. Basically the man that doesn't buy her a drink and acts like a needy desperate idiot. They are few and far between in a club, such men usually avoid venues like that because all the other men are too obsessed with pvssy to be any fun.

The last club I went to was a horrible sight, every single man was just standing or sitting glaring down at the dancefloor. They looked brain dead, I was all over the place dancing and trying to have fun. I tried chatting with a few of them, but they all seemed very uncomfortable socializing. It was pretty clear they only had one thing in mind and one reason for being there. I prefer bars or places where everyone just have a good time and doesn't worry about getting pvssy.
 
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Can you command a presence? Can you get the male bartender to buy you a free drink? Do guys at the bar ask what you do and shake your hand? Do you have a date? Do the hot waitresses love her and give her their number? Can you get the hottest girl there to come looking for you? Does the hottest girl there tell you that you look nice? Do people compliment you on how you dress? Can you say something they think is profound?

Then you're not doing things as well as you can.
 

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Clubs are amusing to me now because I understand everything that's going on in there.

Guys most often go there because there's a lot of girls there, in some faint hope that they'll get laid. Which means clubs are packed with desperate men. Desperate men go very far to get some pvssy, the women who go to clubs know this.

Women do not primarily go to clubs hoping to get laid (a few do), they can achieve that with a snap of their fingers if they want to. They most often go to have fun, dance and take advantage of desperate men. They amuse themselves by teasing and playing mind games, makes them feel powerful to so easily bend the will of men.

Club women are easy though, they'll take the first man that really stands out. Basically the man that doesn't buy her a drink and acts like a needy desperate idiot. They are few and far between in a club, such men usually avoid venues like that because all the other men are too obsessed with pvssy to be any fun.

The last club I went to was a horrible sight, every single man was just standing or sitting glaring down at the dancefloor. They looked brain dead, I was all over the place dancing and trying to have fun. I tried chatting with a few of them, but they all seemed very uncomfortable socializing. It was pretty clear they only had one thing in mind and one reason for being there. I prefer bars or places where everyone just have a good time and doesn't worry about getting pvssy.
I agree with most of what you said. But I disagree that women don't go to clubs and bars to get laid. It's just that a lot of the hot ones are looking for that Chad that will sweep them off of their feet.

I just went out to a club tonight. I noticed a few things. I got approached my by these two reasonably attractive women. But I got a bit bored by how they were talking and dipped. Later I was standing and this milf came up to me and started dancing with me. I can't dance for **** and I've lost that part of me that is willing to dance and not care. But I noticed some things on the dance floor. Most of the women on there were fives to sevens, maybe a seven and half or two. And they were open as ****. Which is a turn off to me. There were two women in particular that I noticed were giving me strong IOIs, but I saw how they were willing to just dance with every guy (one made out with a dude) and it made me want to be around them less.

Women want to **** when they go to clubs. But they have this warped reality on how things should be and usually end up going home alone.
 

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Im surprised someone didnt mention how many girls who go to clubs are engaged and committed to a guy (who is better than 90% of the guys in the club in terms of look and frame) and go there either to accompany their ugly friend and trying to fix her with some guy there or simply to get the attention and validation from the desperate guys they no longer get from their boyfriends who got comfortable after banging a few times.

In eastern europe I even see couples going out togheter with the man at the bar drinking with his mate and their girlfriends dancing and grinding with other guy only to drop them and leave with their men, basically the men get some relax hassle free time with a buddy and the women get attention and validation, everyone happy except the poor sucker who believed it.

As a general rule in my opinion the club is the most racist place on earth, you get measure by just numerical index such as heigh, muscles, facial simmetry, number of hair and so on and that alone makes most of the times the difference between success and failure.

Game is gonna help you only after you look opened the way, her friends are not dragging her away, random fvckers dont put themselves in the middle and so on.

There is also a difference between clubs for people in their 20s and in their 30s, it chances A LOT but that alone would need a thread by itself.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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There is also a difference between clubs for people in their 20s and in their 30s, it chances A LOT but that alone would need a thread by itself.
wat does that mean?
 

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He means college bars are different. I'll agree that people over 40 are generally too old to hang out in college bars. However, as someone who ran the table last week, I can play pool well enough to hold my own there with guys that age. And having picked up a 19 year old girl last month at one, I'm not giving up yet. You need to be a bouncer, owner, manager or shark to be noticed at my age there.
 

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wat does that mean?
Interactions, means to succeed and so on are a lot different.

I believe most of the guys attending this forum would find themselves much more at ease in places for a more mature crowd in terms of "social rules" and opportunities.

Also game is useful and helps overall but it wont make you any taller or make your jaw squared, therefore the more a place allows people to communicate and gives less (I say less not none) importance to look, the more game can actually produce results.
 

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@TheFixer14 Not sure what you're disagreeing with, because what I wrote is in agreement with what you wrote.

But no, women do not primarily go to clubs for sex like guys do. That does not mean most of them wouldn't if they found a good guy, I have already said this. It means that sex is not the main reason they're there, they are not there for d!cks like guys are there for pvssy.

Women are in clubs because it's packed with guys who will stroke their ego's and go fetch her stuff for free.
 

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Enter the judge.

Clubs are amusing to me now because I understand everything that's going on in there.

Hell, we all do! Desperate men, attention seeking women who often plan on sexing their man at home after 4 guys bought her a drink.

Guys most often go there because there's a lot of girls there, in some faint hope that they'll get laid. Which means clubs are packed with desperate men. Desperate men go very far to get some pvssy, the women who go to clubs know this.

Faint hope is right. I save a lot of money by not clubbing.

Women do not primarily go to clubs hoping to get laid (a few do), they can achieve that with a snap of their fingers if they want to. They most often go to have fun, dance and take advantage of desperate men. They amuse themselves by teasing and playing mind games, makes them feel powerful to so easily bend the will of men.

This is why you don't buy her a drink, take her pic, and other similar sh*t. Call their bluffs early on. If they're just trying to make you a beta orbiter, don't do it. Escalate to get physical and closer. Resistance? Ditch her off. She wasn't that attractive anyway.

Club women are easy though, they'll take the first man that really stands out. Basically the man that doesn't buy her a drink and acts like a needy desperate idiot. They are few and far between in a club, such men usually avoid venues like that because all the other men are too obsessed with pvssy to be any fun.

Most men I see in clubs now turn their aloofness and ignore women stat up to eleven. The polar opposite of this is not good either because you'll be out more money. Still, we can't just say that if you don't buy a woman a drink and don't be desperate, you'll stand out and take a hot girl home. It's gonna take more than that.

The last club I went to was a horrible sight, every single man was just standing or sitting glaring down at the dancefloor. They looked brain dead, I was all over the place dancing and trying to have fun. I tried chatting with a few of them, but they all seemed very uncomfortable socializing. It was pretty clear they only had one thing in mind and one reason for being there. I prefer bars or places where everyone just have a good time and doesn't worry about getting pvssy.

Every club or bar has a group of guys trying to get pvssy. Just the way it is.
Read between the lines.

Men win when sex happens. Women win when they get attention, validation, ego boosts, orbiters, and emotional tampons.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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@nismo-4 You're right, it does taje more than not buying a drink and not being desperate. I just shortened it down, there is a way of taking an active part without being desperate. Wasn't going to explain it in detail.

That particular time I went to a club last time was extreme. It wasn't just a group, it was 95% of the guys there, literally speaking. It was abnormal even for a club.
 

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Be not confined by formula guys.

I don't understand what culture you guys come from.

But your idea "in order to take a girl home don't buy her any drinks" just seems to be a product of your fear of being taken advantage of.

There's nothing wrong with buying a girl a drink. Even within 2 minutes of meeting her.
 

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Im surprised someone didnt mention how many girls who go to clubs are engaged and committed to a guy (who is better than 90% of the guys in the club in terms of look and frame) and go there either to accompany their ugly friend and trying to fix her with some guy there or simply to get the attention and validation from the desperate guys they no longer get from their boyfriends who got comfortable after banging a few times.

In eastern europe I even see couples going out togheter with the man at the bar drinking with his mate and their girlfriends dancing and grinding with other guy only to drop them and leave with their men, basically the men get some relax hassle free time with a buddy and the women get attention and validation, everyone happy except the poor sucker who believed it.

As a general rule in my opinion the club is the most racist place on earth, you get measure by just numerical index such as heigh, muscles, facial simmetry, number of hair and so on and that alone makes most of the times the difference between success and failure.

Game is gonna help you only after you look opened the way, her friends are not dragging her away, random fvckers dont put themselves in the middle and so on.

There is also a difference between clubs for people in their 20s and in their 30s, it chances A LOT but that alone would need a thread by itself.

Bro...are you Colombian?
Exactly what u said. .girl dresses up. Yay.
I get to listen to music, stress free...
I am not needy...still I have hot girl the next day.
 

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Bro...are you Colombian?
Exactly what u said. .girl dresses up. Yay.
I get to listen to music, stress free...
I am not needy...still I have hot girl the next day.
Nope not colombian awfully, given my attitude I would have find my dream job there.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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