Trainwreck
Master Don Juan
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It doesn't make any sense.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
This. It's also why women are all over social media .. these resources (bars, social media, etc.) feed their innate narcissism.Lots of men to give them attention and buy them drinks?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I agree with most of what you said. But I disagree that women don't go to clubs and bars to get laid. It's just that a lot of the hot ones are looking for that Chad that will sweep them off of their feet.Clubs are amusing to me now because I understand everything that's going on in there.
Guys most often go there because there's a lot of girls there, in some faint hope that they'll get laid. Which means clubs are packed with desperate men. Desperate men go very far to get some pvssy, the women who go to clubs know this.
Women do not primarily go to clubs hoping to get laid (a few do), they can achieve that with a snap of their fingers if they want to. They most often go to have fun, dance and take advantage of desperate men. They amuse themselves by teasing and playing mind games, makes them feel powerful to so easily bend the will of men.
Club women are easy though, they'll take the first man that really stands out. Basically the man that doesn't buy her a drink and acts like a needy desperate idiot. They are few and far between in a club, such men usually avoid venues like that because all the other men are too obsessed with pvssy to be any fun.
The last club I went to was a horrible sight, every single man was just standing or sitting glaring down at the dancefloor. They looked brain dead, I was all over the place dancing and trying to have fun. I tried chatting with a few of them, but they all seemed very uncomfortable socializing. It was pretty clear they only had one thing in mind and one reason for being there. I prefer bars or places where everyone just have a good time and doesn't worry about getting pvssy.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
wat does that mean?There is also a difference between clubs for people in their 20s and in their 30s, it chances A LOT but that alone would need a thread by itself.
Interactions, means to succeed and so on are a lot different.wat does that mean?
Read between the lines.Clubs are amusing to me now because I understand everything that's going on in there.
Hell, we all do! Desperate men, attention seeking women who often plan on sexing their man at home after 4 guys bought her a drink.
Guys most often go there because there's a lot of girls there, in some faint hope that they'll get laid. Which means clubs are packed with desperate men. Desperate men go very far to get some pvssy, the women who go to clubs know this.
Faint hope is right. I save a lot of money by not clubbing.
Women do not primarily go to clubs hoping to get laid (a few do), they can achieve that with a snap of their fingers if they want to. They most often go to have fun, dance and take advantage of desperate men. They amuse themselves by teasing and playing mind games, makes them feel powerful to so easily bend the will of men.
This is why you don't buy her a drink, take her pic, and other similar sh*t. Call their bluffs early on. If they're just trying to make you a beta orbiter, don't do it. Escalate to get physical and closer. Resistance? Ditch her off. She wasn't that attractive anyway.
Club women are easy though, they'll take the first man that really stands out. Basically the man that doesn't buy her a drink and acts like a needy desperate idiot. They are few and far between in a club, such men usually avoid venues like that because all the other men are too obsessed with pvssy to be any fun.
Most men I see in clubs now turn their aloofness and ignore women stat up to eleven. The polar opposite of this is not good either because you'll be out more money. Still, we can't just say that if you don't buy a woman a drink and don't be desperate, you'll stand out and take a hot girl home. It's gonna take more than that.
The last club I went to was a horrible sight, every single man was just standing or sitting glaring down at the dancefloor. They looked brain dead, I was all over the place dancing and trying to have fun. I tried chatting with a few of them, but they all seemed very uncomfortable socializing. It was pretty clear they only had one thing in mind and one reason for being there. I prefer bars or places where everyone just have a good time and doesn't worry about getting pvssy.
Every club or bar has a group of guys trying to get pvssy. Just the way it is.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Im surprised someone didnt mention how many girls who go to clubs are engaged and committed to a guy (who is better than 90% of the guys in the club in terms of look and frame) and go there either to accompany their ugly friend and trying to fix her with some guy there or simply to get the attention and validation from the desperate guys they no longer get from their boyfriends who got comfortable after banging a few times.
In eastern europe I even see couples going out togheter with the man at the bar drinking with his mate and their girlfriends dancing and grinding with other guy only to drop them and leave with their men, basically the men get some relax hassle free time with a buddy and the women get attention and validation, everyone happy except the poor sucker who believed it.
As a general rule in my opinion the club is the most racist place on earth, you get measure by just numerical index such as heigh, muscles, facial simmetry, number of hair and so on and that alone makes most of the times the difference between success and failure.
Game is gonna help you only after you look opened the way, her friends are not dragging her away, random fvckers dont put themselves in the middle and so on.
There is also a difference between clubs for people in their 20s and in their 30s, it chances A LOT but that alone would need a thread by itself.
Nope not colombian awfully, given my attitude I would have find my dream job there.Bro...are you Colombian?
Exactly what u said. .girl dresses up. Yay.
I get to listen to music, stress free...
I am not needy...still I have hot girl the next day.
It does make sense. Women want sex, they want to get hit on, they want to get laid. In bar and clubs they can get laid, and without any commitment.It doesn't make any sense.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.