“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Why are people so DESPERATE to believe in "game"?

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It's natural for men to want sex. It always has been. Not much we can do about natural urges.
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Now that it has run amok, what are our options?
Some self-control helps.

What those old-time philosophers taught us was the nature of our own nature - our rational self-consciousness is only the veneer covering the more essential passions [something the more 'post-modern' such as Freud and Nietzsche also recognized]. Reason/ ego should neither seek to repress our passion, nor in turn be swamped by it, but restrain it and channel it in more productive ways. Without this view of life, which is essentially ethical, we remained enslaved to our passions... and women.
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Some self-control helps.

What those old-time philosophers taught us was the nature of our own nature - our rational self-consciousness is only the veneer covering the more essential passions [something the more 'post-modern' such as Freud and Nietzsche also recognized]. Reason/ ego should neither seek to repress our passion, nor in turn be swamped by it, but restrain it and channel it in more productive ways. Without this view of life, which is essentially ethical, we remained enslaved to our passions... and women.
I love philosophy, but sex is a topic that I refuse to take their advice on.

They lived in a different time. The consequences of premarital sex were far greater then, than they are today. Yet, even then, they were thinking about it constantly.
 

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I love philosophy, but sex is a topic that I refuse to take their advice on.

They lived in a different time. The consequences of premarital sex were far greater then, than they are today. Yet, even then, they were thinking about it constantly.
Yep, but keep in mind that philosophy is perennial. I think the essence of traditional western philosophy was the sublimation of eros into art. Arguably, this is what made the West great.
 
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Yep, but keep in mind that philosophy is perennial. I think the essence of traditional western philosophy was the sublimation of eros into art. Arguably, this is what made the West great.
Interesting theory. Though there were many things that made the West great, I don't have the knowledge to refute that art was at the base of it.
 

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Your problem is that your posts always sound like "getting women is for the bourgeoisie like me [citation needed], you pathetic peasants" and not "you're doing it all wrong, follow me and I'll show you the way"

Where's your guide on improving LMS at fam? Where's your post on how to avoid majors in college that'll leave you broke and unemployed? I'd read the **** out of that.
If 75% of the site is denying LMS and SMV in favor of "game" why waste my time lol?

People have to accept the truth first. Then you can tell them what to do about it. Everyone wants a QUICK FIX. That's the problem.

The only quick fix available right now is to date within your league. If you do that, all your problems getting dates and sex will evaporate lol. Guys getting constantly rejected, flaked on, abused, and controlled by women are guys punching above their weight. They are punching above their weight because they believe in "game".

As far as LTR's go. That's a market problem that even the guys with the highest SMV are dealing with.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Pretty much everything you say is disputed by the majority of people on this board
The majority of people on this board are blue pill and can't prove their points for sh*t.

The majority of people can dispute gravity. Doesn't make them right lol.

Successful disputes against me? None.
 

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Lmao and here we have it folks, Urbanyst has lost. You can easily see considering his blatant and unprovoked insults. Now the androgynous humanoid creature will continue to flame using words s/he does not understand. Very exquisite.
You've lost at life.

Enjoy your lame Internet victories lol.

You need them.
 

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If 75% of the site is denying LMS and SMV in favor of "game" why waste my time lol?

People have to accept the truth first. Then you can tell them what to do about it. Everyone wants a QUICK FIX. That's the problem.

The only quick fix available right now is to date within your league. If you do that, all your problems getting dates and sex will evaporate lol. Guys getting constantly rejected, flaked on, abused, and controlled by women are guys punching above their weight. They are punching above their weight because they believe in "game".

As far as LTR's go. That's a market problem that even the guys with the highest SMV are dealing with.
We should always go above our league.

For me Game...is Improving SMV/LMS/Attitude/skills/discipline.

It's a whole picture. It takes alot of work.

The quick fix never work

Bro, no point for starting flame wars on people on internet.

The real success stories, SMV and getting LMS is in the on ground/the real physical world.
 

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We should always go above our league.
You can't go above your league.

That's what blue pillers don't get. You either have to RAISE your league or deal with constant rejection.

OR you date a post-WALL used up woman.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You can't go above your league.

That's what blue pillers don't get. You either have to RAISE your league or deal with constant rejection.

OR you date a post-WALL used up woman.
I am always working to raise above my league, get above the current level.

I am on that path.

It's the reason I found this website/forum and met some posters with added values

Whoever is in the way to prevent me from that path is removed of my life.

Check out the 12 rules of Jordan Petersons
 

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The majority of people on this board are blue pill and can't prove their points for sh*t.

The majority of people can dispute gravity. Doesn't make them right lol.

Successful disputes against me? None.
A legend in his own deluded mind.
 

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We should always go above our league.
I gotta go with Urbanyst here, you want to raise your own league, not date above it.
A lot of guys problems with women come from dating above their league. If her value is above yours, that's when oneitis or bad behavior can crop up. Oneitis, because you get validation from her higher value. And you can call her out on her bad behavior, but why would she care when she can do better than you anyway? We make fun of women for wanting only high value men, but we encourage guys to go for higher value women.

Larry David has a bit he does about the Hunchback of Notre Dame. About how even though he was a hunchback, he still went out for the best looking girl in town. "Hey Quasimodo, I know a girl you might like". And he replies: "Is she good looking?".
 

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I am always working to raise above my league, get above the current level.

I am on that path.

It's the reason I found this website/forum and met some posters with added values

Whoever is in the way to prevent me from that path is removed of my life.

Check out the 12 rules of Jordan Petersons
YES. Me too.

Guys should try to rise above their currently league. This is achieved through self love and constantly raising your SMV.

Looks = Good health and presentation
MONEY = You should be constantly trying to get more and keep more
Status = Don't be lazy. Use your natural talents and abilities to get as far as you can.

LMS = SMV.
 

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YES. Me too.

Guys should try to rise above their currently league. This is achieved through self love and constantly raising your SMV.

Looks = Good health and presentation
MONEY = You should be constantly trying to get more and keep more
Status = Don't be lazy. Use your natural talents and abilities to get as far as you can.

LMS = SMV.
i got neglected by fattie recently. why is this? im above her smv couple levels. and she was into me very hard on 1st date.


i think she assumed i want just sex from her but i never said so
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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i got neglected by fattie recently. why is this? im above her smv couple levels. and she was into me very hard on 1st date.


i think she assumed i want just sex from her but i never said so
Women with low SMV are more insecure.

Ugly women and post wall women go for security over attraction. Otherwise they just get banged out by guys with high SMV and dropped for something better later lol. They know it too.

Most guys wouldn't know how to handle a 10 showing interest in them either and would probably be suspicious that she has other motives.

LMS + Compatibility = LTR

Both people have to be close in SMV for a secure and compatible LTR to work. I've hit on 3's just to see what would happen and got rejected lol.
 

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You've lost at life.

Enjoy your lame Internet victories lol.

You need them.
Well, I don’t actually. I’m only doing this to spite you. And I’ve succeeded.

Lack of control = major ego issues. You have a lot to learn about life.
 

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I will preface this whole post by saying that i think the importance of game diminishes with age, as you get older money and status potential increases and the differences become more pronounced and the standards raise as a result, a guy who's like 40 probably needs a house and a car and a 6 figure income to impress girls, and that takes many years to get,

I think PUA stuff and game is most effective if you're anything under 25, getting girls in college or high school doesn't always require your own place let alone a car or a job lol, so game and looks reign supreme (and a relatively easily obtainable status, since it's easier to be good at football in high school than to own a night club or a sports team at 40)

You do not understand my point, I will try again and re-state my belief. What is physically attractive is in the eye of the CHICK. What you think and feel doesn't mean a fvcking thing. If she is attracted to the drugged out drummer look, THAT is what SHE is attracted to. I'm a guy that wears suits to everything, casual to me is no tie, no tats, no pins sticking out of my face... no way in the world a chick that's into the drugged out drummer dudes is going to be attracted to me... and it is not personal.
Oh i see, i get what you mean now and i agree.

Well yes... but you have to do something, you have to approach... strike up a conversation, get her number or ask her out. But I agree, it is a lot easier to turn off a chick that to build her interest.
If relying almost entirely on initial attraction works for you, that suggests very high LMS, but i don't think that's the average situation most guys are in, i don't think that's the only way to get girls.

Though i do agree that it's way easier to turn a girl off than on, that's probably reflective of one's game, a guy with good game isn't going to lower attraction with his interactions usually.

I dunno, i would definitely say that there are going to be times where things start lukewarm or even not that good and get way better from there. You can't just get better looking and richer 5 minutes into an interaction, so the words you said must have done something significant to raise interest

Come on man... they all sell the idea that you can get chicks with game only. They might tell you you have to approach approach approach, but they sell the idea that it's 'practice', and if you are failing... it's just that you need more practice... which is true, you will get better with practice and repetition, but it isn't REALLY game. It's that you happen to run into a chick that that likes what you have... and since you have 'practiced' you are not going to fvck it up.
Well do you think that the average guy gets 100% of the girls he is capable of getting? 50%?

do you think that there are plenty of guys who write off XYZ group/category/rating/ranking of girls being above their league or not attracted to them but in actuality they're just messing it up when they try?

Because in that scenario, approaches would be practice, and by improving your game, listening to what the PUAs are telling you, you'd suddenly see yourself attracting a higher quality of girl you couldn't have gotten before.

I think in that sense, there's definitely merit to the idea of calling it practice, until your game is good your can't get 100% of the value of your SMV

I also think that a lot of guys who come to need help from gurus or whatever just need to practice approaching to get girls, and that may be part of why they say that you just need to practice, there really are a lot of guys out there who could get the girls they wanted just by learning to talk to girls (we even have people like that on the forum)
 

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You can't go above your league.
But your league is subjectively defined by each girl you're talking to differently

If you meet a 10 who thinks you're in her league even though you're a 5, You're in her league.

(granted 95% of the instances of that are a dude whos like a 7, but is insecure/unconfident so he thinks he's a 4, and can't comprehend why 8's and 9's pay attention to him, but it's still a thing)
 

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You can't go above your league.

That's what blue pillers don't get. You either have to RAISE your league or deal with constant rejection.

OR you date a post-WALL used up woman.
There are no leagues. At least not in the way you tend to define them which are extremely rigid and which have no basis in reality.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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