"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why are older women proud of being fat?

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I just went on this forum where someone happened to talk about weight. All these middle aged women talked about how they gained a lot of weight compared to their younger days, and they all have the attitude of (I'm paraphrasing)
-"Skinny girls are just what soceity is shoving down our throats, with that anorexic image"
-"I'm proud of how I look. People should not judge based on looks"
-"I'm actually healthy. A lot of those skinny girls just have good metabolism or they smoke. It's good to have meat on your bones because that is my body type"
-"I would never lose weight for a man. No one can tell me what to do"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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...and they think up all these lines, sitting home, watching "Desperate Housewives, eating ice cream and talking to their 6 cats.
 

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I guess that those lines are proof positive that not only do women lie to men, they lie and deceive themselves too !
 

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It's not just the older women anymore. I'm seeing more young, college-age women looking a quite portly.
 

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There are several fat chick dating sites. Through the magic of the Internet, every woman in the world can find some afc to tell her she is beautiful.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It's just people trying to cope with/become comfortalbe with their insecurities. Not that much different than what we do here. No point in hating on someone for it.
 

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The power of affirmations. If you tell yourself something enough times.. you actually believe it
 

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im just blown away by these portly chics who wear skin tight tub tops and have a big belly roll hanging out the bottom over the waist.

i mean, WTF? how can you possibly thing that is attractive.
 

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And if we don't want to have sex with them because they're 50 lbs overweight, it's our problem. Why? Cause Oprah and Tyra Banks said so. :p
 

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Some guys, but not many, truly dig chubbers. They are doing the common intellectual deceit - this one time it happened so it's common. People trick themselves and others this way all the time, I believe the term is anecdotal evidence. It's not even done on purpose most of the time, they just never learned to think clearly.

Then a case like this fat chick forum where a bunch of like minded people have an emotional investment in belief and group together, well it's pretty much a forgone conclusion. In truth you see a similar thing here but not as often, most guys are more logical and many here know how to think things out.

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Take it from me, Trail Mix-A-Lot...

You want a girlfriend you can dig?

Then give her a hug... cause there's more to love...

There ain't nothin' wrong with being big. :)
 

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Trail Mix-A-Lot said:
There ain't nothin' wrong with being big. :)
I don't think that's the issue, the issue as I understood it is the belief that either (1) most guys like big chicks or (2) if they dont it's the guys problem. I think at least for western culture #1 is certainly wrong and #2 is not a logical concept.
 

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What you have is different mindsets, some women are "calorie spenders" and then you have "calorie savors".

Different goals completely. Calorie spenders are active, they use, or spend the calories they consume to achieve something...be it a healthy lifestyle, finishing a race, or some other goals. Calorie spenders have the viewpoint that there will always be more calories to replace the ones they use, thus they are out there spending them away freely.

Calorie savors, well that's when a woman reaches a point in life and thinks, "hey, maybe I need to start saving some calories for a rainy day". So, they start eating more and "spending" less, just like a bank account. They figure, the more calories they can save on their bodies, the more enlightened, and prepared, they are to handle the tough times. So, they are thinking ahead.

What you need to do, is date calorie spenders. If your woman is a calorie spender, and turns into a calorie savor, she may not share her calories with you. It's not a generous lifestyle, so be careful.
 

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joekerr31 said:
im just blown away by these portly chics who wear skin tight tub tops and have a big belly roll hanging out the bottom over the waist.

i mean, WTF? how can you possibly thing that is attractive.
Hey, as long as there are nice guy to buy them a drinks, they'll have someone to bang them.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Hey, as long as there are blind guy to buy them twinkies, they'll have someone to bang them.
Fixed it fer yah bud.
 

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There ain't nothin' wrong with being big. :)

besides being always uncomfortable, not being healthy and being an eyesore, you are correct
 

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bigjohnson said:
Fixed it fer yah bud.

why is twinkies the official fat people food? funny enough... I bet you every fat person in America has twinkies in their cabinet
 

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backbreaker said:
why is twinkies the official fat people food? funny enough... I bet you every fat person in America has twinkies in their cabinet
I dunno dude, maybe becasue they look like sweetened lard and last forever? The ultimate fattie disaster food? In case of national emergency, break open twinkie box?

Just a few ideas.
 

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bigjohnson said:
I dunno dude, maybe becasue they look like sweetened lard and last forever? The ultimate fattie disaster food? In case of national emergency, break open twinkie box?

Just a few ideas.
They serve them deep fried on a stick up here.:rolleyes:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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