I keep reading this like in magazines and hearing this from people. That you see much better results from free weights and such over machines. Why is this? I'm sure fitness centers are packed with machines for a reason. So whats the real deal?
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Why are free weights and barbells better than machines?
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Free weights use stabilizer muscles and you do more work per capita, thus less time in the gym. Machines are preferable to me while injured or trying to target a certain muscle. I personally like machines better for chest BECAUSE i've always had a problem building my chest with bench and incline press because I use my shoulders and tri's so much.
Free weights give you more functional strength, but it's really all a preference and what you're trying to accomplish.
Free weights give you more functional strength, but it's really all a preference and what you're trying to accomplish.
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To add to speed dawg...Free weights allow free motion and you can generally increase to much higher weights than machines allow. Machines also restrict your motion quite a bit due to the fact that they're very limited in THEIR movements, and your body is forced to comply with the machines ROM.
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Very good point.mrRuckus said:
However, I never really realized the benefit of machines until I was injured. Specifically for chest, I think I've added good mass without the strain on my previously torn rotator cuff. I'm a whole lot more sore after a machine chest workout than I was from bench and incline press, BB and DB.
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It mimics what you would do with your body IN REAL LIFE. A machine is mechanical in its approach and can't replicate nearly as perfect as you can when lifting.
And when doing exercises, what's the ULTIMATE purpose of exercising?
Functionality. Looking good comes as a byproduct of a body that works properly and efficiently. For many, they choose aesthetics over function, but the end result is injuries.
Take a look at people who do upperbody versus the whole body or lower body. The legs/back are used MORE and INJURED more frequently, yet they choose the easy bench press and break their shoulders or injure rotator cuffs.
If you can't do free weights, start with machines. BUT, the end result is, you'll never get good with free weights UNTIL The moment you being using them, and EVEN if you go light to get into the FORM of using free weights, you're better off than going heavy with machines AND THEN having to switch later on and drop the weight anyways. Ultimately, if for some reason you're PERMANENTLY injured or super obese, then machines can be used for activity purposes. My brother can throw his shoulder out just by chucking a ball a few times, so for him to lie below a free weighted barbell is TOUGH, especially knowing he can pop it at anytime. He was dropped in wrestling on his shoulder and it's been weak ever since.
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It mimics what you would do with your body IN REAL LIFE. A machine is mechanical in its approach and can't replicate nearly as perfect as you can when lifting.
And when doing exercises, what's the ULTIMATE purpose of exercising?
Functionality. Looking good comes as a byproduct of a body that works properly and efficiently. For many, they choose aesthetics over function, but the end result is injuries.
Take a look at people who do upperbody versus the whole body or lower body. The legs/back are used MORE and INJURED more frequently, yet they choose the easy bench press and break their shoulders or injure rotator cuffs.
If you can't do free weights, start with machines. BUT, the end result is, you'll never get good with free weights UNTIL The moment you being using them, and EVEN if you go light to get into the FORM of using free weights, you're better off than going heavy with machines AND THEN having to switch later on and drop the weight anyways. Ultimately, if for some reason you're PERMANENTLY injured or super obese, then machines can be used for activity purposes. My brother can throw his shoulder out just by chucking a ball a few times, so for him to lie below a free weighted barbell is TOUGH, especially knowing he can pop it at anytime. He was dropped in wrestling on his shoulder and it's been weak ever since.
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I always like to finish my workouts with a few sets on machines. This is when im too tired to keep good form or max out on free weights.
They are both equally important, and useful. Since free-weights are well supported, I will present a good reason why Machines must still be used.
The Reason
It isolates the specific muscle - thereby giving that muscle a well stimulated workout. The free-weights tend to rob that particular muscle from well-needed work by doling out the work amongst our various muscle fibers throughout our body.
I'm not saying machines are better, but they should be used to compliment a free weight workout to better benefit one's body.
The Reason
It isolates the specific muscle - thereby giving that muscle a well stimulated workout. The free-weights tend to rob that particular muscle from well-needed work by doling out the work amongst our various muscle fibers throughout our body.
I'm not saying machines are better, but they should be used to compliment a free weight workout to better benefit one's body.
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I'm a free-weight lifter for life -- compound lifts > cable kick backs
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I agree with contender, and everyone who doesn't is probably short.
From my personal experience lanky guys usually have trouble isolating muscles during lifts. I do compound workouts for my pecs like dips & bench, but its the butterfly presses on a machine that really makes them grow.
From my personal experience lanky guys usually have trouble isolating muscles during lifts. I do compound workouts for my pecs like dips & bench, but its the butterfly presses on a machine that really makes them grow.
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I have to throw my 2c here. Machines are awesome. In recent years, the weight has been doubled or tripled on them. I've gotten quite big and ripped using mostly machines at 215lbs of solid ripped muscle mass. I'm moving up in weight very quickly - 20lbs every week or 2. It really is effective and efficient.
You can also do point of failure much better which is very important for muscle mass.
You can also do point of failure much better which is very important for muscle mass.