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why america has so many movements?

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This is happening now because of the internet. The same internet gave us ISIS, MeToo and BLM. In the past if you took an extremist view and started spouting a buch of bull****, you'd become an outcast and people would avoid you. Now, you can just go online and find a community of millions of other people that think just like you and all of these people reinforce each others beliefs and it quickly snowballs. Meanwhile, people that disagree also get together and form their own groups online and so quickly the scene is set for a big conflict.
 

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funny how mostly the movements etc. that affect the whole world happen mostly in the US. but when they happen somewhere else, it's like almost nothing (the huge chinese ones being the rare exception, but nothing compared to BLM)...almost as if US doesn't care what's happening outside, but cares a lot when the outside doesn't care what's happening in it
 

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Actually the US is late to the party. Most countries had their revolutions. Anglo Saxon countries seemto be resistent against revolutions but good with evolutions.

As the demography changes the US might get similar to his neighbors in the south. They have always some kind of crisis.

Plus democracies have a tendency to socialism. Who doesn't dream about the perfect world the utopia where we are brothers and sisters. Like you love cats and puppies.

This system kind of works but it's tough.
 

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funny how mostly the movements etc. that affect the whole world happen mostly in the US. but when they happen somewhere else, it's like almost nothing (the huge chinese ones being the rare exception, but nothing compared to BLM)...almost as if US doesn't care what's happening outside, but cares a lot when the outside doesn't care what's happening in it
Because the US is the big experiment and determins if that system works and if it works it will become expanded to the whole world.
 

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If a Democrat was in power or even a more sane Republican than Trump there is no way the protest would have been at this level.
What you're leaving out is that the Dems (and their media) are actively encouraging and promoting the protests, and are actively trying to keep racial tensions stirred up, because it's an election year. It's to their benefit if people feel they are being oppressed and victimized, because that's their base. The coronavirus lockdown has also contributed to the level of protest, because people were fed up and irritable being locked up, and there are so many people out of work right now, their full time job is protesting.
 

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Because most people are too weak for solitude or individual solutions and need to join things to feel important.

Happens on either side, whether it's the destructive SJWs or the freedumb fighters who couldn't deal with two months of Netflix detention + a nurse's mask.

Rather than find ways to better themselves and use their time wisely they seek out other complainers and blow their time and money on group actions, which are far less effective and paint a huge target on your back anyway.

Groups become organizations, organizations become institutions. As Groucho said, who'd wanna be in an institution?
 

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What you're leaving out is that the Dems (and their media) are actively encouraging and promoting the protests, and are actively trying to keep racial tensions stirred up, because it's an election year.
I don't feel that I'm leaving anything out in my assessment, but I would suggest that you think fairly about this. If you think there is biased media then you are ignoring that the media you are listening to could be biased as well. Trump called Covid19 fake news. Do you still think that Covid19 is a hoax made up by the Dems because its election year? Do you remember Trump making that claim? Do you know how many lies Trump has said that has been documented on CNN? So, I think your sources are biased.

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It's to their benefit if people feel they are being oppressed and victimized, because that's their base.
The Covid19 virus also happened during the election year and put the economy upside down. It's also to their benefit if Trump fails in his handling of the virus and economy, and indeed he is, so according to your flawed logic, are you going to blame the Dems for that as well?

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The coronavirus lockdown has also contributed to the level of protest, because people were fed up and irritable being locked up, and there are so many people out of work right now, their full time job is protesting.
If you are going to blame the protests on the Dems then you are going to also have to blame Covid19 on the Dems. It's not a fair assessment that Trump's failure as a leader is promoting the Dems because he's failed to handle the Covid virus and is failing to to deal with long standing issues of racial injustice in the country and in fact is adding more fuel to the fire with his antics. The Dems are not adding fuel to the fire by saying they are not listening and feeling brutal repression is the only response as what Trump has said about this.
 

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If you think there is biased media then you are ignoring that the media you are listening to could be biased as well.
I don't "think" the media is biased, it's a fact. I watch several different news sources, you can see which way each one leans, it's obvious. It's also very clear that it is to one agenda's benefit to keep these protests going at least into November, and they do their best to stir that pot. I had a recent post about how there used to be the Fairness Doctrine, but that is a thing of the past, and now news networks have agendas.
 

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I don't "think" the media is biased, it's a fact. I watch several different news sources, you can see which way each one leans, it's obvious. It's also very clear that it is to one agenda's benefit to keep these protests going at least into November, and they do their best to stir that pot. I had a recent post about how there used to be the Fairness Doctrine, but that is a thing of the past, and now news networks have agendas.
Like I said again, it's also to one agenda's benefit that they are resurgence with Covid-19, but in this case you can't blame the Dems on Trump or Republican governors stupidity. Just because it's in a benefit doesn't mean anything to me if its still caused by the ignorance and stupidity of Trump.
 

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Like I said again, it's also to one agenda's benefit that they are resurgence with Covid-19, but in this case you can't blame the Dems on Trump or Republican governors stupidity. Just because it's in a benefit doesn't mean anything to me if its still caused by the ignorance and stupidity of Trump.
I'm not blaming Covid on anybody, but if you want to discuss that, go to a different thread where it's on topic.
 

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You are not getting the point.
You're saying people are using Covid for political gain. That is absolutely true, and both sides are doing it. Your spin on it is just as biased as the different media outlets. States who weren't hit as hard initially are starting to get hit more now. There's a delicate balance between containing the virus and destroying the economy. Every time you do one, it's at the cost of the other. This is one subject where it's easy to just stand by and point fingers, which I think is ridiculous.
 
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