“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Who's now part of the mg t o w movement

MatureDJ

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I went through a period where I got 10 women out (bare in mind the investment this takes with these wishy washy lunatics)

I didnt get a lay from one of them, at least 7 had an ex in the picture, the other 3 were trash.

Point being Im not a loser, but it put me off women for around 2 years, I can see where these guys are coming from, especially with child maintenance in the USA
So are you trying to say that men living, at least sexually speaking, like monks are not doing the nasty because they are afraid of knocking up some chick? Please, don't insult our intelligence! :mad:
 

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So are you trying to say that men living, at least sexually speaking, like monks are not doing the nasty because they are afraid of knocking up some chick? Please, don't insult our intelligence! :mad:
What? No Im saying How I agree with the philosophy. OP was trying to say the men have stereo typical look. and its not true, even handsome guys are now warning others.
 

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You seriously think that you can't learn anything new and no women will ever be attracted to you?
Truth be told, I just don't care anymore. Why the hell should I use up my time doing this and that just to invite
another soulless harpie into my life, home or car?
I won't catch an STD from my right hand nor do I have to whisper sweet nothings to it or think of witty things
to say to it or take it on 'fun' and 'exciting' dates. I put up with nearly 20 years of someone trying to change me
into someone I'm not. When your own wife tells you from her own experience of being married to you "You
don't like women and you don't like sex..."
which is largely a true statement then really, what's the point??
I dare say some women are attracted to me but I'd sooner just be by myself now. In the same way as
I quite like dessert after a meal but rarely have any as I don't wish to eat unnecessary calories, regardless
of how sweet it may taste or how much I'd enjoy eating it.
 

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Jesus! the thought of a female me makes me shudder.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Who Dares Win

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Most mgtows are simply like "I'm not getting the best cut of the meat therefore I aint paying sh1t for leftovers", it's really that simple even before the law and the marriage thing.

I personally live a very soft mgtow form where I go on with my life and as long as I find women on my route and they do not require any deviation I enjoy their company and intimacy...willing to drop them in zero time the same moment they become even a minor ado.

Also women my age are creepy (yeah women can be creepy too) and very often ugly to see when you undress them.

As long as my body will allow this low commitment attitude with acceptable results, I'll stick to it.
 

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MGGW is better.
 

Speculator E

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Reddit is very woke. Red pill or mgotw content has gone underground but it's not easy to find. If you can't find it on Google (censorship) you might have better luck on duckduckgo
 

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MGOTW are losers.

I don’t know if they are all losers but it’s a very radical concept. There is a ton of hate with these guys and some of it Is justified but in all honesty there are decent females out there and I could not imagine completely cutting them out. I think all men should know what females to avoid... and simply set their standards higher.
 

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I don’t know if they are all losers but it’s a very radical concept. There is a ton of hate with these guys and some of it Is justified but in all honesty there are decent females out there and I could not imagine completely cutting them out. I think all men should know what females to avoid... and simply set their standards higher.
The community itself is pretty toxic, it's just a bunch of guys circle jerking about women. "I'm going to start a community about being away from women, you see how much I don't care about women!" They're like vegans, it's all cope. A real MGTOW wouldn't join such a community, or even bother labeling his lifestyle as if it were a brand, he just does his own thing and pursues joy through other means. Also their banner is a literal boner, ROFL.

A small minority of men have the self control to set themselves to a higher standard in order to be able to demand something better in the first place, and men as a conglomerate evolved to spread seed far and wide, even if they're screwing hood rats. If a dozen average guys are messaging your potential mate that she's beautiful, she probably won't stop and think "hmm what sets you apart from the rest?", even if that man would have been her best option.

Plus, it's an ego boost, so she''ll overestimate her value to be above yours. These problems will continue to persist and get worse online, which is why I think a lot of the DJs today recommend cold approaches.
 
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A small minority of men have the self control to set themselves to a higher standard in order to be able to demand something better in the first place
Also, the systems in place that allowed men to do this have been decimated. Men needed an equal to compete against or a superior to aspire to in a masculine group bonding sense. They needed men to hold each other responsible, and know that there's a group of guys there that have your back when things go sour. That was the role of the boy scouts, all male clubs, male only schools, etc and now so sosuave, although an online format will never replace real, physical interaction.
 

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I was curious to read the MGTOW Reddit, only to find out it was banned for spreading "hate." Meanwhile AskTRP is still going. Interesting that a culture of men "going their own way" and not dealing with women got banned. Makes me wonder how much simmering anger there is there. (Of course yeah it's Reddit and probably pretty woke, but still...gotta be pretty rampant for an entire forum to get the axe.)
No authority gives an F if a guy goes monk mode but none of the "authorities" can afford an increasing number of men to say F it 360 degrees since not having a family basically allows them not to give a F about the survival of the current economical system.

They need the average men to believe and invest, giving him the least possible rewards to keep him inside.

I believe it's pretty naive for us to think that such huge important forum are not managed from above.
 

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I've come to realize a true MGTOW would never engage with the manosphere. You would just be focused on work and hobbies. I've looked at a few MGTOW forums and Youtube channels and it's mostly toxic for your mind. You're not going MGTOW if 80-90% of your channel content is complaining about women.
 

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Agree. MGTOW is a fast growing segment as male sexlessness rates continue to climb.
key words: bisphenol A

oh, and I'm all for idiots removing themselves from the gene pool. It's natural selection lmao it'll make our species stronger and smarter in the future hahahah
 
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I went through a period where I got 10 women out (bare in mind the investment this takes with these wishy washy lunatics)

I didnt get a lay from one of them, at least 7 had an ex in the picture, the other 3 were trash.

Point being Im not a loser, but it put me off women for around 2 years, I can see where these guys are coming from, especially with child maintenance in the USA
you don't need to live in a highly urbanized center. Specially in the US. Have that in mind.
 

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And those of us that don't and will never have those qualities?
I have good news for you guys then: this forum exists only because of you! That's 20 years of people teaching you how to do exactly that. Have fun!
 

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True Forced Loneliness prophet "Roller" Steve Hoca has long contended that MGTOW is really Men Being Left Alone - i.e., TFLers (Incels) in denial.

Most MGTOWs are from the female reject bin. Females are discarding what seems like a larger percentages of males now based on the increases in the male sexlessness rates.
 

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I have good news for you guys then: this forum exists only because of you! That's 20 years of people teaching you how to do exactly that. Have fun!
Hmmm. Given the likelihood of the alleged 'prize' being an absolutely shocking human being I think I'd rather
learn to juggle chainsaws with a blindfold on. Less chance of having your guts ripped out.
 

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MGOTW are losers.

I can kind of understanding not wanting to get married, but completely cutting women out of your life is loser ****. You can easily have a stress-free, fun relationship with a woman if you don't act like a *****.
Uh, no, unless you want to FatChickMax or StepDaddyMax. I suppose you could also PayOffBrideStudentDebtMax.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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