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Hey all,

I haven't been on for a while since I've been in Paris (sweet!), but I got myself into a stupid, and I could use some advice.

A few days ago I was playing piano in an auditorium at my school. I was pretty focused on my music, but when I looked up there was this girl sitting there. She was pretty cute, but more importantly, she was French (those of you who like Parisian accents know this is quite alluring). So I was speaking to her in French, sucking at piano because I remember nothing, and she asked me if I could teach her a song. I don't know what I was thinking but I said yes. Quite simply, I don't want to - it was my summer job and I'm sick of it. But I got her number and two email addresses. I was getting some eye contact that said "I want you" - in any case, she was interesting and worth getting to know.

So what should I do? I'm not giving her a piano lesson - she has to do what I want to do - so I have two options in front of me: 1.) I was thinking I would give her a voice lesson, which would be funny since I don't know how to sing, and would give opportunities for kino etc. (I would make it work, no worries - oh and she told me she didn't sing well). 2.) I could call her up, tell her I can't give her a piano lesson, and ask her out on some other type of date where no lesson is involved. This option is more direct.

Any thoughts anybody? I should give her a call sometime soon (email probably wouldn't work too well for this sort of thing). What would you do in this situation?

Thanks,

--Iwwq (stupid French keyboards)
 

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Originally posted by izza
So what should I do? I'm not giving her a piano lesson - she has to do what I want to do...
Bleh, give her the lesson, but make her bring you some nice French wine or something to make up for it. You don't want to actually give her a lesson, so make it as light-hearted as possible. Less learning and more flirting/playing. Easy enough to do.

Hell, make her bring food too, because teaching piano can make a man hungry (or so you say).
 

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Re: Re: Whoops

Originally posted by lavhoes
Bleh, give her the lesson, but make her bring you some nice French wine or something to make up for it. You don't want to actually give her a lesson, so make it as light-hearted as possible. Less learning and more flirting/playing. Easy enough to do.

Hell, make her bring food too, because teaching piano can make a man hungry (or so you say).
Haha, I like the food ideas, and this would certainly be the honorable thing to do. But this isn't the kind of solution I'm looking for.

Having said this, I'm starting to lean towards a voice-lesson gimme food extravaganza.

Thanks for the input
 

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telling her to give u food in exchange for a lesson makes u seem kinda cheap

tell her to bring wine, and make her drunk :D
 

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how do you get yourself into a "stupid"? I didn't know that was a noun.

Also, she said she isn't good but many girls say that because of low self esteem or just to be cute. She might be real good and then you'd look kinda dumb.
 

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Originally posted by Big Eee Zee
how do you get yourself into a "stupid"? I didn't know that was a noun.

Also, she said she isn't good but many girls say that because of low self esteem or just to be cute. She might be real good and then you'd look kinda dumb.
It's not a noun... and I'm aware it's not a noun. It underlines how what I did was stupid. You see, when you use bad grammar, it makes you sound stupid, that is the joke. But why do I have to explain this? Oh, right.

If she was a great singer, I would just give her ****ty advice... that would be hilarious.
 

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Charge her for the lesson. She's no different than any of your other customers. Just because she's pretty, it doesn't mean she gets a free lesson.

Not sure if you could turn this around into a date. Quote her an outrageous price for the lesson. If she turns it down (she will), then say, "Allright, how about you just meet me for coffee at xx place at xx o'clock on xxday?" If you get turned down again, write her off.
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
Charge her for the lesson. She's no different than any of your other customers. Just because she's pretty, it doesn't mean she gets a free lesson.

Not sure if you could turn this around into a date. Quote her an outrageous price for the lesson. If she turns it down (she will), then say, "Allright, how about you just meet me for coffee at xx place at xx o'clock on xxday?" If you get turned down again, write her off.
I never told this chick I was a piano teacher. Besides, I don't work for my old piano teacher anymore, and in fact I'm in a different country. If she were just another customer... sheeeee, I don't care what she looked like, I would charge her in a second - and then hit on her heh.

I like that idea about charging a ridiculous rate though. I don't know what's going to come out of my mouth today when I call her, but maybe that.

Any other suggestions?
 

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Dude, you should definitely teach her a song. You realize that being the teacher puts you into a natural alpha male status? One of the best ways to get to a woman's heart is to teach her something. My suggestion is that you start the lesson, get it going, and somewhere in your conversation, realize that you want to try the Cube with her. She will devour it. Just make sure that you are in a sexual state. give her a lot of MAVEC, etc. Touch her hands to show her where to put them on the keys, etc.

Seriously, this is the perfect situation for a lay-date.

You're gold, man.

~Vibe~
 

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Originally posted by Vibe
Dude, you should definitely teach her a song. You realize that being the teacher puts you into a natural alpha male status? One of the best ways to get to a woman's heart is to teach her something. My suggestion is that you start the lesson, get it going, and somewhere in your conversation, realize that you want to try the Cube with her. She will devour it. Just make sure that you are in a sexual state. give her a lot of MAVEC, etc. Touch her hands to show her where to put them on the keys, etc.

Seriously, this is the perfect situation for a lay-date.

You're gold, man.

~Vibe~
Hmm, I didn't quite think of it like that.

You've got a point - why not? I'll give it a shot. Hahaha, you're right, if she goes for it, this is going to be hilariously easy.
 

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Originally posted by Vibe
You realize that being the teacher puts you into a natural alpha male status? One of the best ways to get to a woman's heart is to teach her something. Touch her hands to show her where to put them on the keys,

Seriously, this is the perfect situation for a lay-date.
He's right, use the opportunity to have complete control of the situation and be in a POWER position. Women love powerful men, use it to your advantage.
 
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