"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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who here hangs out with their gf and her friends?

LoneWolf

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i did tonight, you kinda feel like a king hangin out with all these girls. it was me, my gf, her twin sister and another girl. then more girls at the bar we went to. im not gonna make it a regular thing but it was kinda cool. do you guys do this much?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Johnnyventana

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I think hanging out with the chick and her friends is ghey! Reverse it. If it was all dudes, but your chick tagged along, it would totally ruin the natural conversation, not too mention flirting with randoms, etc. Plus, many guys act 'different' with their chick there, judging. It's a drag. I hate with a passion if it is guy's night and some needy guy (or maybe his chick is needy) brings his chick. I'm always like seriously? Get a life. You hang with your friends, she hangs with hers. My opinion!
 

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Everyone should have their own social circles. But theres nothing wrong with mixing it up if you know what to expect.

If your girl doesn't have a shallow degrading sense of humour, you shouldn't let her meet your dudes.
 

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Not getting it: "If your girl doesn't have a shallow degrading sense of humour, you shouldn't let her meet your dudes." Nice non sequitur.

A one off is cool. But when it HAS to be that way = ghey.
 

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Read the third link in my signature. It's fine since she's official. The gray area and what could lead you to trouble is allowing yourself to hang out with a romantic interest and her friends when you haven't made a move on her yet.

What you should be careful about is involving your gf in every little aspect of your life and your close friend circle. Often times it's best to keep your gf away from your close friends as much as possible.

If you're going out with your buddies go out with your buddies. No need to include your gf every time you go out. Give yourself some space.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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LoneWolf

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well i only get to see her once a week. twice if lucky. she invited me out to a bar with some people she knows and to watch a singer she knows. to be honest i quite enjoyed myself and i got along with everyone, we socialized with other people and weren't glued to each other too much. she even took me to her house beforehand and i met the parents and her sister who came with us.

we kiss and cuddle and all that infront of everyone so it was cool. but like i said i wont make this a regular thing. i just did that once off to make her happy and well, if i didn't go i wouldn't of seen her until the next week and that kinda sucks. also i wouldn't of got laid if i didn't go last night :)
 

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I meant that women normally don't like hanging out with a guy and his mates, cos they don't find the same things funny or interesting... at least, they pretend not too.

I hung out with my ex and her friends a fair few times, mainly at bars or clubs, we even went to the zoo. I'm a natural leader and they all followed me.

If you're comfortable enough in your own skin you can hang with anyone, anytime. Fvck the politics dude.
 

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f283000 said:
Read the third link in my signature. It's fine since she's official. The gray area and what could lead you to trouble is allowing yourself to hang out with a romantic interest and her friends when you haven't made a move on her yet.

What you should be careful about is involving your gf in every little aspect of your life and your close friend circle. Often times it's best to keep your gf away from your close friends as much as possible.

If you're going out with your buddies go out with your buddies. No need to include your gf every time you go out. Give yourself some space.
great post that you sent out and I completely agree with you on it. This one and the previous thread.

The key to any relationship is to lay the groundwork first. THEN you can introduce her to whoever you would like to such as your friends and family. You don't want to scare her off that would be a :kick: .

Which reminds me, I got to introduce my new girlfriend to my friends now. This ought to be interesting :whistle:

- comic_relief
 

handle

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If I like her friends then yeah, I do.

If I don't like her friends I don't.

I expect the same from her.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have a very similar question. My girl is sorta of attention needy/ has a bunch of guy friends (including a couple of my good friends) so she hangs out with me and my guys a fair amount. The other day she is in a huffy mood and gets on my case about this or that and then she says "and I really think that you should hang out with me and my friends sometimes, because i feel I always have to choose between them and you." Now, I have been dating this girl for over a year, we go to the same school ( and see each other all day long every day), and I am fairly good friends with her girlfriends. However, I don't feel like spending time with her friends and so I told her I wouldn't do it. She says that I only care about myself and my own wants. I think this is rediculous, right?
 

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When I was in High School I used to hang out with my GF and her friends and my friends. I knew all of her friends and they were cool with me. So that was pretty fun.
 
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