"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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who here hangs out with their gf and her friends?

LoneWolf

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i did tonight, you kinda feel like a king hangin out with all these girls. it was me, my gf, her twin sister and another girl. then more girls at the bar we went to. im not gonna make it a regular thing but it was kinda cool. do you guys do this much?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Johnnyventana

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I think hanging out with the chick and her friends is ghey! Reverse it. If it was all dudes, but your chick tagged along, it would totally ruin the natural conversation, not too mention flirting with randoms, etc. Plus, many guys act 'different' with their chick there, judging. It's a drag. I hate with a passion if it is guy's night and some needy guy (or maybe his chick is needy) brings his chick. I'm always like seriously? Get a life. You hang with your friends, she hangs with hers. My opinion!
 

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Everyone should have their own social circles. But theres nothing wrong with mixing it up if you know what to expect.

If your girl doesn't have a shallow degrading sense of humour, you shouldn't let her meet your dudes.
 

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Not getting it: "If your girl doesn't have a shallow degrading sense of humour, you shouldn't let her meet your dudes." Nice non sequitur.

A one off is cool. But when it HAS to be that way = ghey.
 

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Read the third link in my signature. It's fine since she's official. The gray area and what could lead you to trouble is allowing yourself to hang out with a romantic interest and her friends when you haven't made a move on her yet.

What you should be careful about is involving your gf in every little aspect of your life and your close friend circle. Often times it's best to keep your gf away from your close friends as much as possible.

If you're going out with your buddies go out with your buddies. No need to include your gf every time you go out. Give yourself some space.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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LoneWolf

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well i only get to see her once a week. twice if lucky. she invited me out to a bar with some people she knows and to watch a singer she knows. to be honest i quite enjoyed myself and i got along with everyone, we socialized with other people and weren't glued to each other too much. she even took me to her house beforehand and i met the parents and her sister who came with us.

we kiss and cuddle and all that infront of everyone so it was cool. but like i said i wont make this a regular thing. i just did that once off to make her happy and well, if i didn't go i wouldn't of seen her until the next week and that kinda sucks. also i wouldn't of got laid if i didn't go last night :)
 

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I meant that women normally don't like hanging out with a guy and his mates, cos they don't find the same things funny or interesting... at least, they pretend not too.

I hung out with my ex and her friends a fair few times, mainly at bars or clubs, we even went to the zoo. I'm a natural leader and they all followed me.

If you're comfortable enough in your own skin you can hang with anyone, anytime. Fvck the politics dude.
 

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f283000 said:
Read the third link in my signature. It's fine since she's official. The gray area and what could lead you to trouble is allowing yourself to hang out with a romantic interest and her friends when you haven't made a move on her yet.

What you should be careful about is involving your gf in every little aspect of your life and your close friend circle. Often times it's best to keep your gf away from your close friends as much as possible.

If you're going out with your buddies go out with your buddies. No need to include your gf every time you go out. Give yourself some space.
great post that you sent out and I completely agree with you on it. This one and the previous thread.

The key to any relationship is to lay the groundwork first. THEN you can introduce her to whoever you would like to such as your friends and family. You don't want to scare her off that would be a :kick: .

Which reminds me, I got to introduce my new girlfriend to my friends now. This ought to be interesting :whistle:

- comic_relief
 

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If I like her friends then yeah, I do.

If I don't like her friends I don't.

I expect the same from her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have a very similar question. My girl is sorta of attention needy/ has a bunch of guy friends (including a couple of my good friends) so she hangs out with me and my guys a fair amount. The other day she is in a huffy mood and gets on my case about this or that and then she says "and I really think that you should hang out with me and my friends sometimes, because i feel I always have to choose between them and you." Now, I have been dating this girl for over a year, we go to the same school ( and see each other all day long every day), and I am fairly good friends with her girlfriends. However, I don't feel like spending time with her friends and so I told her I wouldn't do it. She says that I only care about myself and my own wants. I think this is rediculous, right?
 

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When I was in High School I used to hang out with my GF and her friends and my friends. I knew all of her friends and they were cool with me. So that was pretty fun.
 
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