"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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who has the best method?

whos the best of the best?

  • Ross Jefferies

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Mystery

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • Neil strauss

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • Tyler Durden

    Votes: 4 12.1%
  • David deangelo

    Votes: 11 33.3%

  • Total voters
    33

SonOfTheMostHigh

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Originally posted by boulepiquante
i agree with BPIMP jeffries S a lot of **** and i think NL P s a lot of crap anyway
if it was that wonderful everybody d get laid like mad and world peace would be a realty
ROSS s basically a CLOWN who needs his court of admirers to lick his ass!! he s become a big joke overthe years and needs to retire

DAVIDDEANGELO REPEATS HIMSELF A LOT ddy is ok for beginners with his thery of showing you re not needy and hos ****Y and FUNNY ( he actually got from his pal RYKER )
NOW david d s become a businessman and only wants your money !!! also he s lost his seduction or seductive ege !!!!!

MYSTERY has an unusual personality and comes off as very CHARISMATIC the guy s got it he has this presence that attracts naturally all the chicks
he s goodlooking also and a showman
he fi

rst took up MAGIC cuz he wanted to assert himself and it s how he started to attract females

STYLE s a disciple of MYSTERY
the thing about STYLE is that he s ugly!!! and thru the power of words he s become a successful womanizer


STYLE SDAND MYSETRY S TECHNIQUES
1 OPE?ER opinionseeking )
****Y a FUNNY
2 SHOWING VALUE
3 CREATING COMFORT
4 BEING INTERETED OR SHARING COMMONALITIES
Who's this mystery dude I keep hereing about and what does he do, he another ebook guy as well?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Jariel

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Originally posted by Gonzalo
Have you actually attended a seminar of his, or heard any of his tapes? Or ever tried running a pattern?

I have, as have many others, to much success.
Really? I think you're the only guy I've seen who said he's been successful with it. Most people, including myself end up making fools of themselves. And yes, I did listen to a lot of his tapes, read books and tested it all in the field. Oh and I've also had women try to use it on me, and it was so obvious.

Nobody appreciates being manipulated, and I found it's a sure way to freak women out and get them to avoid you.
 

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Oh and I don't rank any of the above options. David DeAngelo's ****y + funny and neghits have proven effective and he has a good way of encouraging guys to stand up for themselves, but his methods are too theoretical.

I get the idea that a lot of these seduction gurus are actually socially retarded geeks and detached from reality. They nearly all live in some kind of fantasy world where they run these perfect scenarios through their heads, like some kind of Mills & Boon novel for men.

Have you noticed how they all give LOTS of hypothetical situations? They tell you to say/do something then the woman will give you a pre-empted response and everything goes according to textbook. In REALITY, these situations don't run anything like that!

And they will often tell you of "experiences" they supposedly had, which sound more far fetched than fairy tales.

I mean, David D tells how he attended a conference, pulled a face (the underlook) at a woman he'd never met and she just started making out with him on the spot. Hmmm, the odds of that happening outside a porn movie are very remote!

Then Jeffries claims he got a blow job simply by working "below me" into a sentece to sound like "blow me". What kind of crazy reality is he living in? Just cos a woman might hear "blow me" is she really gonna do it? Well, maybe she was a paid prostitute.

But generally I think everyone needs to wisen up and not take ANY of this stuff literally and certainly don't act on blind faith alone.

My gurus are the ones who prove what they preach and inspire me to improve myself.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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the problem is the method.
 

Derek Flint

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Originally posted by Jariel
Oh and I don't rank any of the above options. David DeAngelo's ****y + funny and neghits have proven effective and he has a good way of encouraging guys to stand up for themselves, but his methods are too theoretical.

I get the idea that a lot of these seduction gurus are actually socially retarded geeks and detached from reality. They nearly all live in some kind of fantasy world where they run these perfect scenarios through their heads, like some kind of Mills & Boon novel for men.

Have you noticed how they all give LOTS of hypothetical situations? They tell you to say/do something then the woman will give you a pre-empted response and everything goes according to textbook. In REALITY, these situations don't run anything like that!

And they will often tell you of "experiences" they supposedly had, which sound more far fetched than fairy tales.

I mean, David D tells how he attended a conference, pulled a face (the underlook) at a woman he'd never met and she just started making out with him on the spot. Hmmm, the odds of that happening outside a porn movie are very remote!

Then Jeffries claims he got a blow job simply by working "below me" into a sentece to sound like "blow me". What kind of crazy reality is he living in? Just cos a woman might hear "blow me" is she really gonna do it? Well, maybe she was a paid prostitute.

But generally I think everyone needs to wisen up and not take ANY of this stuff literally and certainly don't act on blind faith alone.

My gurus are the ones who prove what they preach and inspire me to improve myself.
That's one of the biggest flaws about using Routines and/or Patterns - things never go predictably.

That is also why Routines and Patterns and all that other crap is just a crutch for having real game.

Also, rumor has it that Mystery uses "hired guns" out in the field to impress his W/S students.

Students who pay $2000 for a weekend bootcamp.

I'd like to see someone write a real book on the seduction community.
 
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