"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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who has the best method?

whos the best of the best?

  • Ross Jefferies

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Mystery

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • Neil strauss

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • Tyler Durden

    Votes: 4 12.1%
  • David deangelo

    Votes: 11 33.3%

  • Total voters
    33

SonOfTheMostHigh

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Originally posted by boulepiquante
i agree with BPIMP jeffries S a lot of **** and i think NL P s a lot of crap anyway
if it was that wonderful everybody d get laid like mad and world peace would be a realty
ROSS s basically a CLOWN who needs his court of admirers to lick his ass!! he s become a big joke overthe years and needs to retire

DAVIDDEANGELO REPEATS HIMSELF A LOT ddy is ok for beginners with his thery of showing you re not needy and hos ****Y and FUNNY ( he actually got from his pal RYKER )
NOW david d s become a businessman and only wants your money !!! also he s lost his seduction or seductive ege !!!!!

MYSTERY has an unusual personality and comes off as very CHARISMATIC the guy s got it he has this presence that attracts naturally all the chicks
he s goodlooking also and a showman
he fi

rst took up MAGIC cuz he wanted to assert himself and it s how he started to attract females

STYLE s a disciple of MYSTERY
the thing about STYLE is that he s ugly!!! and thru the power of words he s become a successful womanizer


STYLE SDAND MYSETRY S TECHNIQUES
1 OPE?ER opinionseeking )
****Y a FUNNY
2 SHOWING VALUE
3 CREATING COMFORT
4 BEING INTERETED OR SHARING COMMONALITIES
Who's this mystery dude I keep hereing about and what does he do, he another ebook guy as well?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Jariel

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Originally posted by Gonzalo
Have you actually attended a seminar of his, or heard any of his tapes? Or ever tried running a pattern?

I have, as have many others, to much success.
Really? I think you're the only guy I've seen who said he's been successful with it. Most people, including myself end up making fools of themselves. And yes, I did listen to a lot of his tapes, read books and tested it all in the field. Oh and I've also had women try to use it on me, and it was so obvious.

Nobody appreciates being manipulated, and I found it's a sure way to freak women out and get them to avoid you.
 

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Oh and I don't rank any of the above options. David DeAngelo's ****y + funny and neghits have proven effective and he has a good way of encouraging guys to stand up for themselves, but his methods are too theoretical.

I get the idea that a lot of these seduction gurus are actually socially retarded geeks and detached from reality. They nearly all live in some kind of fantasy world where they run these perfect scenarios through their heads, like some kind of Mills & Boon novel for men.

Have you noticed how they all give LOTS of hypothetical situations? They tell you to say/do something then the woman will give you a pre-empted response and everything goes according to textbook. In REALITY, these situations don't run anything like that!

And they will often tell you of "experiences" they supposedly had, which sound more far fetched than fairy tales.

I mean, David D tells how he attended a conference, pulled a face (the underlook) at a woman he'd never met and she just started making out with him on the spot. Hmmm, the odds of that happening outside a porn movie are very remote!

Then Jeffries claims he got a blow job simply by working "below me" into a sentece to sound like "blow me". What kind of crazy reality is he living in? Just cos a woman might hear "blow me" is she really gonna do it? Well, maybe she was a paid prostitute.

But generally I think everyone needs to wisen up and not take ANY of this stuff literally and certainly don't act on blind faith alone.

My gurus are the ones who prove what they preach and inspire me to improve myself.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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the problem is the method.
 

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Originally posted by Jariel
Oh and I don't rank any of the above options. David DeAngelo's ****y + funny and neghits have proven effective and he has a good way of encouraging guys to stand up for themselves, but his methods are too theoretical.

I get the idea that a lot of these seduction gurus are actually socially retarded geeks and detached from reality. They nearly all live in some kind of fantasy world where they run these perfect scenarios through their heads, like some kind of Mills & Boon novel for men.

Have you noticed how they all give LOTS of hypothetical situations? They tell you to say/do something then the woman will give you a pre-empted response and everything goes according to textbook. In REALITY, these situations don't run anything like that!

And they will often tell you of "experiences" they supposedly had, which sound more far fetched than fairy tales.

I mean, David D tells how he attended a conference, pulled a face (the underlook) at a woman he'd never met and she just started making out with him on the spot. Hmmm, the odds of that happening outside a porn movie are very remote!

Then Jeffries claims he got a blow job simply by working "below me" into a sentece to sound like "blow me". What kind of crazy reality is he living in? Just cos a woman might hear "blow me" is she really gonna do it? Well, maybe she was a paid prostitute.

But generally I think everyone needs to wisen up and not take ANY of this stuff literally and certainly don't act on blind faith alone.

My gurus are the ones who prove what they preach and inspire me to improve myself.
That's one of the biggest flaws about using Routines and/or Patterns - things never go predictably.

That is also why Routines and Patterns and all that other crap is just a crutch for having real game.

Also, rumor has it that Mystery uses "hired guns" out in the field to impress his W/S students.

Students who pay $2000 for a weekend bootcamp.

I'd like to see someone write a real book on the seduction community.
 
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