ALPHAROMEO
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WHO ARE THE SEDUCTION SCAMMERS?
MYSTERY
DE ANGELO
XUMA
SWINGCAT ( should get the first prize for scamming )
MYSTERY
DE ANGELO
XUMA
SWINGCAT ( should get the first prize for scamming )
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
who are the seductions scammers ?
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Mr Wright
Master Don Juan
based on what?
I dont think any of them are scammers, they are all good at what they do.
I dont think any of them are scammers, they are all good at what they do.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Xuma reeks of dishonesty and greed. If you order anything from him, you'll start gettting spammed like you've never seen before. I find him to be inconsistent and incongruent.
If you order something from him when he emphasises a money-back guarantee, he sends out several versions of a story where he talks about some guy who wanted his money back, but who is a loser douche because of that.
If you order something from him when he emphasises a money-back guarantee, he sends out several versions of a story where he talks about some guy who wanted his money back, but who is a loser douche because of that.
Poonani Maker
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Why swinggcat? He follows Robert Greene's laws of seduction etc. about the coquette and the rake and the dandy etc etc etc. I never would have known how to identify certain seducers if I hadn't listened to swinggcat. Don't pay for every one out there's sh!t though.
I've taken the bits and pieces of many of them, but swinggcat's I transcribed to paper to let it sink in. You can go into seduction mode when out interacting with women and then go back to being yourself when around dudes or coworkers. It's like letting the genie out of the bottle. Whenever I meet a woman (that's hot obviously), I go into seduction mode, and it's just a natural transition because I'm turned on and this being here before me talking with me makes me want to fvck it. There is no long-term love in me unless she plays all her cards right. If she worships me, she MAY have a long-term relationship with me. If not, I've fvcked you, now...goodbye.
I've taken the bits and pieces of many of them, but swinggcat's I transcribed to paper to let it sink in. You can go into seduction mode when out interacting with women and then go back to being yourself when around dudes or coworkers. It's like letting the genie out of the bottle. Whenever I meet a woman (that's hot obviously), I go into seduction mode, and it's just a natural transition because I'm turned on and this being here before me talking with me makes me want to fvck it. There is no long-term love in me unless she plays all her cards right. If she worships me, she MAY have a long-term relationship with me. If not, I've fvcked you, now...goodbye.
Borknagar
Master Don Juan
ya know, I think they have have legitimate things they say, and a lot of stuff works, it's the prices are marketing tactics that are the problem. I would NEVER spend $3000 on a silly bootcamp when practice, and approaching, and figuring out what works for YOU is the best thing.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
zekko
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That sounds exhausting. I would rather just be myself 100% of the time, even if the results suffer a little. If you make yourself an attractive person you don't have to change yourself when you're around women.Poonani Maker said:
I could see the benefit of having an experienced eye watching you from an outside perspective and telling you what you're doing wrong, what you're doing right, where you can improve, etc. Sort of like a coach fixing a golf swing. But I still wouldn't pay for it, and especially not anything like $3000.Borknager said:
sexysuave
Senior Don Juan
I've never heard of Xuma and swingcat.
David D I've read and listened to some of his stuff, and he sounds prettylogical. He doesn't seem like one of those crazy outgoing types, but more of a "nice guy" who just went out and forced him self to learn a lot of information and go through a lot of practice to improve.
I know he has other businesses and what not, and I haven't looked into any of those, so not sure how sound his advice there is, but as far as "dating" (and he always focuses on stricly dating, and says that some of his examples are not for LTR) he is not bad at all, mainly basic stuff, but important.
Mystery, the only thing I've read is his first book, which was decent. And I've read "the GAME" which has a lot of Mystery stuff in it too obviously.
I actually think David D covers more of the improtant info than mystery, while mystery does have some good tactics on how to go step by step in a situation to close the deal. David D covers more about the "inner game".
David D I've read and listened to some of his stuff, and he sounds prettylogical. He doesn't seem like one of those crazy outgoing types, but more of a "nice guy" who just went out and forced him self to learn a lot of information and go through a lot of practice to improve.
I know he has other businesses and what not, and I haven't looked into any of those, so not sure how sound his advice there is, but as far as "dating" (and he always focuses on stricly dating, and says that some of his examples are not for LTR) he is not bad at all, mainly basic stuff, but important.
Mystery, the only thing I've read is his first book, which was decent. And I've read "the GAME" which has a lot of Mystery stuff in it too obviously.
I actually think David D covers more of the improtant info than mystery, while mystery does have some good tactics on how to go step by step in a situation to close the deal. David D covers more about the "inner game".
ALPHAROMEO
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money
by the way DI ANGELO also wrote a e book on the subject of picking up men for women under the name of CARTER i believe so don t tell me the guy is not into it for the money
by the way DI ANGELO also wrote a e book on the subject of picking up men for women under the name of CARTER i believe so don t tell me the guy is not into it for the money
sexysuave
Senior Don Juan
That might be, no clue, I didn't read any books on picking up guys, so not sure lol.
But I dont' care what HE is in it for, if you can learn somethign from any of them, that's what I care about. And from what I understand he's like a multi-millionaire now, so he must have been doing somethign right lol.
All of us strive to have money, if you don't, you should. It's one of the basic needs for our survival today, so there is nothing wrong being motivated by it. Just saying.
But I dont' care what HE is in it for, if you can learn somethign from any of them, that's what I care about. And from what I understand he's like a multi-millionaire now, so he must have been doing somethign right lol.
All of us strive to have money, if you don't, you should. It's one of the basic needs for our survival today, so there is nothing wrong being motivated by it. Just saying.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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Everyone who charges money, seriously, this stuff isn't rocket science.
old married dude
Senior Don Juan
I think you can learn enough at a place like this & reading the DJ bible. Best thing about it is that it's free too!