"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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who are the seductions scammers ?

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WHO ARE THE SEDUCTION SCAMMERS?

MYSTERY

DE ANGELO

XUMA
SWINGCAT ( should get the first prize for scamming )
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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based on what?

I dont think any of them are scammers, they are all good at what they do.
 

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Xuma reeks of dishonesty and greed. If you order anything from him, you'll start gettting spammed like you've never seen before. I find him to be inconsistent and incongruent.

If you order something from him when he emphasises a money-back guarantee, he sends out several versions of a story where he talks about some guy who wanted his money back, but who is a loser douche because of that.
 

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Why swinggcat? He follows Robert Greene's laws of seduction etc. about the coquette and the rake and the dandy etc etc etc. I never would have known how to identify certain seducers if I hadn't listened to swinggcat. Don't pay for every one out there's sh!t though.

I've taken the bits and pieces of many of them, but swinggcat's I transcribed to paper to let it sink in. You can go into seduction mode when out interacting with women and then go back to being yourself when around dudes or coworkers. It's like letting the genie out of the bottle. Whenever I meet a woman (that's hot obviously), I go into seduction mode, and it's just a natural transition because I'm turned on and this being here before me talking with me makes me want to fvck it. There is no long-term love in me unless she plays all her cards right. If she worships me, she MAY have a long-term relationship with me. If not, I've fvcked you, now...goodbye.
 

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ya know, I think they have have legitimate things they say, and a lot of stuff works, it's the prices are marketing tactics that are the problem. I would NEVER spend $3000 on a silly bootcamp when practice, and approaching, and figuring out what works for YOU is the best thing.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Poonani Maker said:
You can go into seduction mode when out interacting with women and then go back to being yourself when around dudes or coworkers
That sounds exhausting. I would rather just be myself 100% of the time, even if the results suffer a little. If you make yourself an attractive person you don't have to change yourself when you're around women.

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I would NEVER spend $3000 on a silly bootcamp when practice, and approaching, and figuring out what works for YOU is the best thing.
I could see the benefit of having an experienced eye watching you from an outside perspective and telling you what you're doing wrong, what you're doing right, where you can improve, etc. Sort of like a coach fixing a golf swing. But I still wouldn't pay for it, and especially not anything like $3000.
 

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I've never heard of Xuma and swingcat.

David D I've read and listened to some of his stuff, and he sounds prettylogical. He doesn't seem like one of those crazy outgoing types, but more of a "nice guy" who just went out and forced him self to learn a lot of information and go through a lot of practice to improve.

I know he has other businesses and what not, and I haven't looked into any of those, so not sure how sound his advice there is, but as far as "dating" (and he always focuses on stricly dating, and says that some of his examples are not for LTR) he is not bad at all, mainly basic stuff, but important.

Mystery, the only thing I've read is his first book, which was decent. And I've read "the GAME" which has a lot of Mystery stuff in it too obviously.

I actually think David D covers more of the improtant info than mystery, while mystery does have some good tactics on how to go step by step in a situation to close the deal. David D covers more about the "inner game".
 

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by the way DI ANGELO also wrote a e book on the subject of picking up men for women under the name of CARTER i believe so don t tell me the guy is not into it for the money
 

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That might be, no clue, I didn't read any books on picking up guys, so not sure lol.

But I dont' care what HE is in it for, if you can learn somethign from any of them, that's what I care about. And from what I understand he's like a multi-millionaire now, so he must have been doing somethign right lol.

All of us strive to have money, if you don't, you should. It's one of the basic needs for our survival today, so there is nothing wrong being motivated by it. Just saying.
 

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I gotta say that the guys from RSD seem the most legit. They post video's of them actually pulling off insane ****, and their philosophy makes the most sense to me.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I think you can learn enough at a place like this & reading the DJ bible. Best thing about it is that it's free too!
 
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