"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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White lies from a new interest

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Been getting to know this new female last few weeks. Just had sex first time last week. She always answers if I call, which is only when I ask to hook up. And she texts often and everyday and wants to know when she can see me.

But I found out this week she lies. Tuesday, I texted when she was at work, right before her break, and didn't hear back until she got home. She said, "hi sorry I missed your text. I left my phone in my car after lunch. Can't wait to see you later and walk Russell! "(My dog).

This is a complete lie. I looked at some of her friends Facebook pages and saw the time stamp on comments she posted to their walls and pictures. They were between the time of my text and before she was done working. And the funny thing was one of the pictures she commented on said, "People who who wait to talk to you only when it suits them are not worth your time". Lol.

And Thursday night I texted at 9:50 pm and she responded on her lunch the next day, "yes I'm doing well. How's your day? Miss you bunches. Sorry I was sleeping last night and just getting back to people now on lunch. Are we still watching a movie tonight?"
Again, a lie. I looked at her Facebook and it said mobile uploads was updated at 10:43 pm with pictures of cookies. I went to her friends pages again and she commented about being home making cookies at 10:25 pm. And she uploaded a profile picture at 9:00 am the next morning and responded to comments two hours before she said she was just starting to get back to people on her lunch.

Normally I just take people at their word and know people have a life. But now that I know she lies I feel everything she says could be a lie. And now I'm feeling like I'll always question people when this kind of thing. Why lie about something so unimportant?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Night-hawk

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Too much detective work not enough not giving a fvck. She shows interest. She meets with you. You bang her. Sure, screen her in the meantime, but meanwhile...go go gadget bang her again.
 

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GettinMyMindRight said:
Stop stalking her via social media. You've known her for three weeks; she doesn't owe you anything.
not the point. she lies. just get back whenever you want. no need to make up excuses.
And I'm not stalking her. Her friends are my friend too. That's how I see this stuff. which also makes me embarrassed for her. how could she be so careless to get caught lying. lol.
 

No.Danny

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^ don't do that. Stop stalking a girls page, girls do that ****. You reack "little *****". Man up and bang her as long as you can.
 

MOTU

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On one hand, it seems good that she feels compelled to explain herself to you - that shows interest. On the other hand, little lies are often followed by bigger lies. Get all the pvssy you can from her but don't trust her with your heart or your money.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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mangotot

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She lacks in assertiveness. Why can't she just say sorry I had other things to do. She is a weak person.
 

Fireballs

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Maybe she's trying not to seem too keen and giving you those reasons so you don't think she's being rude. As others have said just keep banging and screening her and stop stalking her.
 

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vinkoch said:
not the point. she lies. just get back whenever you want. no need to make up excuses.
And I'm not stalking her. Her friends are my friend too. That's how I see this stuff. which also makes me embarrassed for her. how could she be so careless to get caught lying. lol.
She's careless because she probably didn't see you acting like a "no other options having psycho stalker" which you are showing tendencies of being.

Dude, this is stuff women do, not guys...

Why do you care? She is probably seeing and banging other guys. If you aren't I suggest you start
 

marmel75

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mangotot said:
She lacks in assertiveness. Why can't she just say sorry I had other things to do. She is a weak person.
Most women aren't assertive. They have estrogen not testosterone. Sadly most guys these days have an abundance of estrogen and not much testosterone either
 

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If you want to ***** and whine about this kind of petty sh*t, dump her azz.

You've asked for advice and perspective. You've gotten advice and perspective.

Take it or leave it. Don't argue with it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Greasy Pig

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Chicks lie like this all the time to men they either aren't interested in or who they've just met.
If she's not your girlfriend, don't give a fvck, just pound that pvssy.
 
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