"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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not the most pua thing to ask but does asking a girl to be your girlfriend or asking her out work over the phone? or would it be better to do it in person? shes already into me so im not worried about that.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It doesn't matter, if she's into you
 

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mpimpin said:
It doesn't matter, if she's into you
If she already likes you then either will work fine. I'd go with doing it in person though.
 

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If she already likes you then either will work fine. I'd go with doing it in person though.

Yea, this way you can bone her directly afterwards, rather than saying, "Ok. so I guess I'll see you later. Honey." and hanging up.

Although in general I don't think I've ever ASKED a girl to be my girlfriend (or at least I haven't since I was 14).
 

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The Forms said:
Yea, this way you can bone her directly afterwards, rather than saying, "Ok. so I guess I'll see you later. Honey." and hanging up.

Although in general I don't think I've ever ASKED a girl to be my girlfriend (or at least I haven't since I was 14).
Yeah I haven't asked a girl to become my girlfriend since I was 13 years old lol (grade 7). After time it is just assumed that if you've taken her on a few dates that she's your girlfriend :). Asking her out on a date works better in person too.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Don't ask her to ask you out! That's the dumbest thing I have heard.
If she already has attraction for you, you are merely half way there! You need to ensure you keep that attraction between the both of you, ask her out a few times, ensure the conversation stays smooth, use ****y humor on her, etc.
The dumbest thing you can do is say something such as, "Hey, I really really like you. Do you want to be my girlfriend."
Once you start going out with her, it will be ASSUMED that you and her are going out. Don't spill your feelings too soon as well, as it can EASILY turn off a girl; I know from personal experience.
Keep a mystery face on, let her confess her love for you, and take things from there. Remember, it's all about timing...

Also, one quick note. Do not ASK her to go out with you. The trick to getting a girl to go out with you is to not ASK her; you need to think like a salesman. G up to her and have a conversation such as:
You: Hey girl, you going to look good for me on Saturday?
Her: Saturday? What's Saturday? (All confused.)
You: When you're going to be going out with the most irresistible guy you know!
Her: *Laugh*
You: Great! Meet me at so and so at so and so
Her: Sounds good
You: Cya

Remember, keep it short, sweet, and to the point. Look up in this forum for first date tips, there are MANY things you need to do and I can't be bothered to post everything I know. Make sure you just don't come off as too needy when you ask her go out somewhere with you; and DON'T ask her where you want to go out. Remember, YOU want to be the man in the relationship, not her.

Girls will sometimes put up tests to see how confident you are, etc.
An example of what I mean to not come off as asking for approval is this:
She: Do you want to sit there?
You: No, let's sit there.
YOU need to put yourself in charge. If she asks to meet at the movies, say you would rather go bowling. (Just an example.)

Last tip I want to mention is the flaking test. Sometimes, a girl will say yes to go out with you somewhere, but they will cancel a day before the actual "date" was suppose to happen - that's called flaking. SO, many guys have wondered how to prevent this. It's simple. Right after you ask her out, ask a simple question, "Do you ever flake out on people?"
Most often a girl will say, "No." It's common sense! If she doesn't know what flaking is, let her know about the term. (I've had it happen 2 or 3 times before.)
Once she replies "no", tell her EXACTLY this: "Good! Because if it's one thing I don't like, it is flaky people. There are too many flaky people in the world these days!" Than switch the topic.
Once you say this to her, she will know that it is NOT okay to flake on you, and you will eliminate flakiness!
However, if she does end up flaking on you after you say this to her. Say this: "I thought you were different from all those other girls/women I knew.. guess I was wrong. If you were going to flake out on me, you could have at least told me earlier so I could have made plans with other friends." She needs to know that it's not okay to waste your time and that your time is precious.

Anyway, this post was rather long. If you need any more help, drop me a PM and I will help you out.
In short, plan the date over the phone... it's far easier and most common in my opinion. You aren't asking her to be your girlfriend, you are merely planning to have a date with her. Once you have more and more dates with her, you will find out if she is really your type, and than it will just be assumed you are going out.

Good luck with this girl,
Nick.
 

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dont make her the event....

Dont think that asking her out...should be an event or anything it should be something simple....heck i play my game normally everywhere..... if you make her the event...she will not like that... most girls and women are insecure deep down.....be positive and show her a good time...if ur good at calibrating the situation....

insecure:Girls are not the leader always remeber that...if they were they wouldn't have to spend 1 hour a day fixing themselves up to look good

just come out of your comfort level isnt that what making and advance is really about...sometimes trust how your body is feeling....give yourself permission...to go for the kiss...sometimes girls get disappointed when the guy doesnt react how" they expect them too"

I once over heard a conversation about a girl she was having with her friends...one girl was saying...its good when a guy gives me a rose or some chocalates...but when im with him i want it to be really passionate and have a a great time...if i wanted to only talk and talk thats why i got my friends for...


Asking her out by the phone is just WHACK i like to have her in front of me...old style...if youve created like an aura that says that your a man....and u present that this guy who is in front of her is all real to the bone..heck shell tell all her friends about you...

But if act as a wimp who cant get over himself...doesnt show that he is right for her....shes really going to be disapointed....and will disrespect you for that":kick:

HOPE THIS WAS GOOD ADVICE...SEE YAH!!!!!
 

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Sniper001 said:
Don't ask her to ask you out! That's the dumbest thing I have heard.
If she already has attraction for you, you are merely half way there! You need to ensure you keep that attraction between the both of you, ask her out a few times, ensure the conversation stays smooth, use ****y humor on her, etc.
The dumbest thing you can do is say something such as, "Hey, I really really like you. Do you want to be my girlfriend."
Once you start going out with her, it will be ASSUMED that you and her are going out. Don't spill your feelings too soon as well, as it can EASILY turn off a girl; I know from personal experience.
Keep a mystery face on, let her confess her love for you, and take things from there. Remember, it's all about timing...

Also, one quick note. Do not ASK her to go out with you. The trick to getting a girl to go out with you is to not ASK her; you need to think like a salesman. G up to her and have a conversation such as:
You: Hey girl, you going to look good for me on Saturday?
Her: Saturday? What's Saturday? (All confused.)
You: When you're going to be going out with the most irresistible guy you know!
Her: *Laugh*
You: Great! Meet me at so and so at so and so
Her: Sounds good
You: Cya

Remember, keep it short, sweet, and to the point. Look up in this forum for first date tips, there are MANY things you need to do and I can't be bothered to post everything I know. Make sure you just don't come off as too needy when you ask her go out somewhere with you; and DON'T ask her where you want to go out. Remember, YOU want to be the man in the relationship, not her.

Girls will sometimes put up tests to see how confident you are, etc.
An example of what I mean to not come off as asking for approval is this:
She: Do you want to sit there?
You: No, let's sit there.
YOU need to put yourself in charge. If she asks to meet at the movies, say you would rather go bowling. (Just an example.)

Last tip I want to mention is the flaking test. Sometimes, a girl will say yes to go out with you somewhere, but they will cancel a day before the actual "date" was suppose to happen - that's called flaking. SO, many guys have wondered how to prevent this. It's simple. Right after you ask her out, ask a simple question, "Do you ever flake out on people?"
Most often a girl will say, "No." It's common sense! If she doesn't know what flaking is, let her know about the term. (I've had it happen 2 or 3 times before.)
Once she replies "no", tell her EXACTLY this: "Good! Because if it's one thing I don't like, it is flaky people. There are too many flaky people in the world these days!" Than switch the topic.
Once you say this to her, she will know that it is NOT okay to flake on you, and you will eliminate flakiness!
However, if she does end up flaking on you after you say this to her. Say this: "I thought you were different from all those other girls/women I knew.. guess I was wrong. If you were going to flake out on me, you could have at least told me earlier so I could have made plans with other friends." She needs to know that it's not okay to waste your time and that your time is precious.

Anyway, this post was rather long. If you need any more help, drop me a PM and I will help you out.
In short, plan the date over the phone... it's far easier and most common in my opinion. You aren't asking her to be your girlfriend, you are merely planning to have a date with her. Once you have more and more dates with her, you will find out if she is really your type, and than it will just be assumed you are going out.

Good luck with this girl,
Nick.
thanks for this huge post man, it really helps.
 
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