"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Which Emotions Did She Feel on your Date?

NeverFear

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Curiosity, uncertainty, surprise, the unexpected,
transparency, laughter, goofiness, anticipation,
security, safety, ?

If she didnt feel any of those, she doesnt remember the date.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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typical

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And exactly how the hell am I gonna know what she felt I ain't there trying to work out how she feels dude, if I get a kiss or more at the end then the date was a success, as long as your having fun and she's vibing well to your presence then its going fine screw the over analyzing crap.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Actually, this is one of the best questions I've seen asked in a really long time. Even though you can't tell specifically without her telling you, there are certain feeling that you should attempt to illicit from a woman. Who knows, if you're good enough, she may just tell you outright; yeah, it happens!

What works best for me include comfort, humor, passion, self reflection, and if there's a connection lust. Are these things easily instilled during one date, heck no! However, you shouldn't be surprised what could happen if the date extends into the wee hours of the morning or until dawn... ;)
 

typical

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But I dont understand why your trying to work out what she's feeling, this isnt a contest to make her go through a series of emotions, if you plan your dates well and go out do fun interesting things you end up scoring, I've never sat there thinking about a plan where I'm gonna make her feel different moods depending on what I do.

Sounds a little lame to me results on what she actually does around me then what she feels is what I go for, if the actions are there the feelings must be.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Okay, seriously?

She seemed a bit spooked stepping onto a boat in high heels and a skirt that short. It gave me a chance to be the stabilizing force, to put her hand in mine and pull her aboard -- showing that I'm someone she can trust, and to show off my strength a little. She was impressed by the boat, enchanted by the sunset, she admitted she was turned on at the grease on my pants and the little bit of sweat (before I went below to change / clean up), and she really liked the wine. We laughed, we talked, we listened to some music, we watched the sunset. Her apprehensions melted away after about an hour and we f-cked like weasels.

In bed (okay, in bunk), she was very giving and very giggly, kind of shy. I think she might have been fat at one time, just b/c she was so self-conscious. She had an awesome body but she liked to keep covered up.

It was a good night. I'll see her again.
 
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