"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Where to start?

Blue Dude

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I am clueless!

I have read dj bible, countless threads, methods after methods but I have no idea where to start. What to try first, what second. This method, that method. Anybody expirienced got any tips for me on where to start.

I basicly need to learn to appraoch and open, and convo technics.

- I know how to approach, but its plain and boring. It dosent set a fire in the girls if you know what I mean.

- I have trouble opening a set with more than 3 girls.

- When I start talking I basicly build a big fcking report and nothing happens.

Help!!

Dude
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What have you learned from reading the DJ bible and the countless threads you have viewed?

Your change comes from you and your own personal life. It doesn't start with talking to women.
 

Blue Dude

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no, maybe it dosen't. But my life is good. I dress good, I act good, I feel good. Everything.

But talking to girls is where my problem lies.

So if your advice is, go in your room and build selfconfidence, feel good about your self etc etc, I have it all. So now, can you give me advice on what I ask for?

Dude
 

Walking Anomaly

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You sound like a smart dude...Trying to analyze things and accumulate knowledge and methods-trying to organize it into a sequence of events (first do #1, then #2, then #3, and so on)

But the thing with DJ'in is that every woman will be somehow different, so you can't really break it down into a science....I've tried to do it.

You can't rely completely on these techniques in my opinion. They are a guide, not set in stone. They will not work 100% of the time.

Best thing that you can do is to go out and talk to as many women as you can. Pay attention to what you talk about and take note if the girls are receptive, or disgusted. Once you build rapport (some connection), you can talk about pretty much anything.

Just go up to them and say "Hi" - thats all. Before you go up to them...take notice of something about her that you can talk about (weird clothing, perfume, anything...) as a start-off topic.

Just an example:
I picked up a chick one time because i knew what perfume she was wearing (it was Love Spell, which i think smells lovely on a chick). She was astonished that I knew what she was wearing, and was completely receptive after that one comment...number closed, ended up datin a bit...

And have a chill attitude...try not to worry about what the outcome will be...the chicks you are talking to at the time aren't the only ones you will find good looking wherever you are.

The rest is really up to you. You can do it

~WA
 
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