Luke Skywalker
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Where is the 'Unusual Techniques of seduction'?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
JPFromTally
Senior Don Juan
There is no hidden mystery to seducing women. Some girls will like you. Some girls won't. Out of the girls who like you some will sleep with you. Some girls won't.
Step 1 - Go up to a girl and talk about anything. This is where being an interesting person helps. If you're dull you're SOL.
Step 2 - Ask for her phone number.
Step 3 - Ask her to hang out (cup of coffee, drinks, anything but dinner and a movie).
Step 4 - After two hours of hanging out if she's feeling it ask her if she wants to come back to your place.
Step 5a) If no then make plans for another night.
Step 5b) Go back to your place and screw.
What's so unusual about that?
Step 1 - Go up to a girl and talk about anything. This is where being an interesting person helps. If you're dull you're SOL.
Step 2 - Ask for her phone number.
Step 3 - Ask her to hang out (cup of coffee, drinks, anything but dinner and a movie).
Step 4 - After two hours of hanging out if she's feeling it ask her if she wants to come back to your place.
Step 5a) If no then make plans for another night.
Step 5b) Go back to your place and screw.
What's so unusual about that?
JPFromTally said:
Yep, this is pretty much it! Sometimes it may take a bit more time and a few dates, but this is the essence of seduction.
Of course, the more attractive, confident and more interesting you are as a person, the higher your chances of success.
There is really no need to make it any more complicated. Instead of working on "unusual techniques", work on making yourself a better person and increasing your odds.
JPFromTally
Senior Don Juan
Well said.Jariel said:
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.