Luke Skywalker
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Where is the 'Unusual Techniques of seduction'?
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
JPFromTally
Senior Don Juan
There is no hidden mystery to seducing women. Some girls will like you. Some girls won't. Out of the girls who like you some will sleep with you. Some girls won't.
Step 1 - Go up to a girl and talk about anything. This is where being an interesting person helps. If you're dull you're SOL.
Step 2 - Ask for her phone number.
Step 3 - Ask her to hang out (cup of coffee, drinks, anything but dinner and a movie).
Step 4 - After two hours of hanging out if she's feeling it ask her if she wants to come back to your place.
Step 5a) If no then make plans for another night.
Step 5b) Go back to your place and screw.
What's so unusual about that?
Step 1 - Go up to a girl and talk about anything. This is where being an interesting person helps. If you're dull you're SOL.
Step 2 - Ask for her phone number.
Step 3 - Ask her to hang out (cup of coffee, drinks, anything but dinner and a movie).
Step 4 - After two hours of hanging out if she's feeling it ask her if she wants to come back to your place.
Step 5a) If no then make plans for another night.
Step 5b) Go back to your place and screw.
What's so unusual about that?
JPFromTally said:
Yep, this is pretty much it! Sometimes it may take a bit more time and a few dates, but this is the essence of seduction.
Of course, the more attractive, confident and more interesting you are as a person, the higher your chances of success.
There is really no need to make it any more complicated. Instead of working on "unusual techniques", work on making yourself a better person and increasing your odds.
JPFromTally
Senior Don Juan
Well said.Jariel said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.