"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Where is the line between building value and bragging?

DJorBUST

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Good to be here. I came upon this forum recently and have been browsing for awhile now. I'm a mid-twenties AFK with some serious need of help.

While talking to women, I'm always afraid that I've crossed the line from building value in a sort of indirect way and just outright bragging about myself and seeming like an arrogant ass.

Here are some examples of things I think would impress women in no particular order:
1. I exercise quite often and I've been hitting the gym for years (I don't look that buff tho). Basically, I have physical strength.
2. I am an excellent cook. I took professional cooking classes and I cook quite frequently.
3. I'm intelligent. I graduated from an Ivy league school and I am coming close to finishing med school.
4. I have an excellent sense of humor. This, however, doesn't come across that well initially because I'm nervous on the initial approach.

Obviously I want to build as much value as possible in a short period of time before trying to ask a girl out on a date or get her number. How would I work something positive like being a doctor into the conversation effectively or should I even put something like that into the conversation at all?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Warboss Alex

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Quite frankly, a woman doesn't want to hear about you, she'll be bored if you talk about yourself.. ask her about HERSELF and then she'll ask you about you. simple really.

You don't have to sell yourself. She'll get to find out your traits if she's interested enough.

Selling yourself smacks of desperation-to-impress in my humble, non-DJ opinion.
 

Nighthawk

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The line is just before she suspects you're bigging yourself up. The ideal man doesn't have to try too hard.
 
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