Don of Truth
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I notice I get it alot. It sucks. Where does this originate in the head ? Why do we get oneitis ?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Where Does Oneitis Come From ?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
If you ask me it's been manipulated into our brain by society. With romantic movies, stories about 'the one', 'the soulmate' etc.
It gets people obsessed with trying to find this perfect mate. More romantic people believe there is someone out there that is the one for us and everytime they meet someone that seems close enough, they want to hold on to them no matter what.
The opposite is found in people that break up with anyone that proves to 'not-be-perfect'. They will not compromise or deal with any 'imperfectness' in order to find their soulmate.
If you ask me: there is no such thing. There are hundreds if not thousands of women that you can be happy with. If you realize this, you will have less of a chance to catch oneitis, because you know the girl is not the perfect woman, she is not your soulmate and there will be other girls you can be happy with.
It gets people obsessed with trying to find this perfect mate. More romantic people believe there is someone out there that is the one for us and everytime they meet someone that seems close enough, they want to hold on to them no matter what.
The opposite is found in people that break up with anyone that proves to 'not-be-perfect'. They will not compromise or deal with any 'imperfectness' in order to find their soulmate.
If you ask me: there is no such thing. There are hundreds if not thousands of women that you can be happy with. If you realize this, you will have less of a chance to catch oneitis, because you know the girl is not the perfect woman, she is not your soulmate and there will be other girls you can be happy with.
I think it's really just infatuation, but one sided. Early on in a reciprocal relationship, both people feel that way.Originally posted by Don of Truth
I notice I get it alot. It sucks. Where does this originate in the head ? Why do we get oneitis ?
A very recent study showed that during the early infatuation stage, part of the brain that is related to addictive behavior (like drug addiction) is heavily active. That heavy activity subsides as the infatuation dies down (typically in a few months or so).
I bet the same thing is going on in the brain with oneitis. But who knows if the brain calms down with unrequited attraction.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Click here. That won't give you the actual scientific article, but it's a good synopsis.Originally posted by jason86
Interesting. Can you find a link to that study?
Don of Truth
Don Juan
Re: Re: Where Does Oneitis Come From ?
I remember the movie "Swingers" where that one dude just had the hardest time coping with his breakup.....I bet that actually goes on alot in real life.
That would explain things well. Because it FEELS like a drug. You have a high and when the girl is not around or you lose her....you get withdraw symtoms !!Originally posted by whistler
A very recent study showed that during the early infatuation stage, part of the brain that is related to addictive behavior (like drug addiction) is heavily active.
I remember the movie "Swingers" where that one dude just had the hardest time coping with his breakup.....I bet that actually goes on alot in real life.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Re: Re: Re: Where Does Oneitis Come From ?
It only happens when you base your happiness on having her around. Be happy on your own and breakups will have a dramatically lesser effect.Originally posted by Don of Truth
That would explain things well. Because it FEELS like a drug. You have a high and when the girl is not around or you lose her....you get withdraw symtoms !!
I remember the movie "Swingers" where that one dude just had the hardest time coping with his breakup.....I bet that actually goes on alot in real life.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
aftershock
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It's Gods way of saying that you're close to getting some.
Get some from somewhere else.
Get some from somewhere else.
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Very simple explantation
Think about a car that was the greatest car ever made in your opion and many other people. This car is perfect in your eyes. It has every single quality you "think" you want in a car. Even though there are other great cars on the market for you, you know "this" car is perfect for you.now think about the fact you could afford the car and so could many others but for the craziest reason the dealership would not sell it to you.
wouldn't you only want the car all the more just to be able to say you were the one who was able to get it.
Now compare it to your oneitis. You have a girl you want. You feel you have all the "supposed" qualities she wants. Many other guys want her too. However she won't get with any of you. There are plenty of other great girls around that would be happy to be with you. However in your mind they don't stack up to the "car"(girl) you want. None do. Even though many of the other cars are just as great if not more so.
But the fact that you weren't able to buy the one car(girl) makes you want it that much more. You think why can't I have it. I have everything required to get it, but I can't. Now you want it more than ever just to prove you can get it.
And this is where it turns into a deep psychological issue. You have everything the girl says she wants. You have a good connection with the girl. However the girl does not want you.
It turns into a self-competitive manner in which you want to prove to yourself you can obtain something you orginally not. Psychologicaly you feel you are good enough so your are unable to understand the rejection. Therefore you try harder than the previous attempt to get the girl. However it turns her off more.
In turn you become more infatuated with the idea of why you cant get the girl (since you have everything she could want) instead of the girl herself. If you feel infatuated with a girl you cant have at least 50 percent of the attraction is the fact you can't have her. People always want what they cannot have.
Sorry for taking so long on that one but your question demands a thourough description to completely explain.
Think about a car that was the greatest car ever made in your opion and many other people. This car is perfect in your eyes. It has every single quality you "think" you want in a car. Even though there are other great cars on the market for you, you know "this" car is perfect for you.now think about the fact you could afford the car and so could many others but for the craziest reason the dealership would not sell it to you.
wouldn't you only want the car all the more just to be able to say you were the one who was able to get it.
Now compare it to your oneitis. You have a girl you want. You feel you have all the "supposed" qualities she wants. Many other guys want her too. However she won't get with any of you. There are plenty of other great girls around that would be happy to be with you. However in your mind they don't stack up to the "car"(girl) you want. None do. Even though many of the other cars are just as great if not more so.
But the fact that you weren't able to buy the one car(girl) makes you want it that much more. You think why can't I have it. I have everything required to get it, but I can't. Now you want it more than ever just to prove you can get it.
And this is where it turns into a deep psychological issue. You have everything the girl says she wants. You have a good connection with the girl. However the girl does not want you.
It turns into a self-competitive manner in which you want to prove to yourself you can obtain something you orginally not. Psychologicaly you feel you are good enough so your are unable to understand the rejection. Therefore you try harder than the previous attempt to get the girl. However it turns her off more.
In turn you become more infatuated with the idea of why you cant get the girl (since you have everything she could want) instead of the girl herself. If you feel infatuated with a girl you cant have at least 50 percent of the attraction is the fact you can't have her. People always want what they cannot have.
Sorry for taking so long on that one but your question demands a thourough description to completely explain.
Bonhomme
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Hound_of_Love
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There is an element of your own self-worth involved. The girl who says 'no' to you is effectively saying 'you're not good enough for me'. In cases of oneitis you see the only way of validating yourself in making her see that you are good enough by getting her.
The way to break that cycle is to realise that she can't possibly know that you aren't good enough for her, that you are good enough for her and that once you leave her in a cloud of dust she'll realise that she made a big mistake in saying 'no' (whether she ever chases you or not).
n.b. It is my belief that this also explains why if you chase a girl for ages as she says 'no' and then she eventually says 'yes', you will quickly lose interest in her (normally after having your wicked way with her) because it ceased to be her you were chasing a long time ago and became yourself (your self-esteem) that you were really chasing.
The way to break that cycle is to realise that she can't possibly know that you aren't good enough for her, that you are good enough for her and that once you leave her in a cloud of dust she'll realise that she made a big mistake in saying 'no' (whether she ever chases you or not).
n.b. It is my belief that this also explains why if you chase a girl for ages as she says 'no' and then she eventually says 'yes', you will quickly lose interest in her (normally after having your wicked way with her) because it ceased to be her you were chasing a long time ago and became yourself (your self-esteem) that you were really chasing.