"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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TJ5925

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Hi all - Looking for some advice on some starting points for myself in terms of meeting women and also curious as to what "types" of women may be interested in me and vice versa.

Some background on me:

Just turned 30 this year - and I feel like I am in a good place in my life. I maybe something of a late bloomer in that I have very limited intimate experience with women. It's just never happened for whatever reason.

I feel I have a lot of momentum right now and am ready to be more proactive in meeting women (or at least being in the right places) since just "living a normal life" hasn't worked to this point.

In terms of my looks - this is a strength. It's never been an issue. I'm very confident in my appearance and get reinforcement quite a bit.

Personality-wise, in good shape too. Really nice guy, down-to-earth, well-adjusted, easy-going, good sense of humor, love to laugh, intelligent, well read, cultured, sports/movie/tv buff, family-oriented, educated, have got good friends, etc. I have a lot of traits that blend well with lots of different people. Personality has never been an issue.

And I've developed myself in other areas too - I've got a nice career that pays well, own a nice condo in aN excellent part of town, just got a new car, etc.

Now saying all this...I've got very limited experience with women - no relationship, hardly any dates, etc. I'm ready. Just don't know what I can do differently to start making connections? I think just doing some of the little things better would help me - but what are they?

Also, what "types" of women would be a fit? Not to sound weird, but I feel like I've got a lot going for me - I just haven't been discovered in the right capacity yet. Sort of like a hidden gem.

Thanks all, sorry for the long post.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Everywhere there's women you should be approaching. The mall is great. Introduce yourself and mingle for a few minutes. In the highest point of conversion get the number and later set up a date. Remember it's a numbers game so the more numbers the higher chance. Seems like you have everything going. You just need to actually start approaching instead of being ready but not doing anything.
 

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You start by making some approaches. Don't use this forum or game as a buffer to delay or put off meeting women. Go read The Rational Male and use the menu to get to the best of year one. Chateau Heartiste also a great blog. There is also the DJBible right here on this site which links you to a lot of inspirational informational posts.

Remember the key is approaching and escalating. Go after multiple girls at once don't get focused on one single girl you've just started dating. Don't be a doormat.
 

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Thanks guys.

I don't know how to do the cold approach. I've got no problem talking to women that I know; or after there is an opening. I'm pretty solid there and have no problem with interaction. Cold approaches? I've never done it.

I need to find the middle ground and at least find a way to be responsive to the women who give signals. I'm not good at keeping eye contact with a woman who's smiling or giving glances, etc. My buddies tell me that I get checked out more than most but I do nothing with it. Zero. I'll make quick eye contact and look away. If I've got an advantage in terms of women looking my way - how can I respond in a way that makes it easier to approach?

I'm trying to find the way to turn the glances,smiles into a conversation. I'm very social once I know people but approaching females I don't know is definitely a little daunting even if I have built-in advantages.
 

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I know I'm going to have to start approaching...just gotta do it, right?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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JaegerPilot217

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TJ5925 said:
Hi all - Looking for some advice on some starting points for myself in terms of meeting women and also curious as to what "types" of women may be interested in me and vice versa.

Some background on me:

Just turned 30 this year - and I feel like I am in a good place in my life. I maybe something of a late bloomer in that I have very limited intimate experience with women. It's just never happened for whatever reason.

I feel I have a lot of momentum right now and am ready to be more proactive in meeting women (or at least being in the right places) since just "living a normal life" hasn't worked to this point.

In terms of my looks - this is a strength. It's never been an issue. I'm very confident in my appearance and get reinforcement quite a bit.

Personality-wise, in good shape too. Really nice guy, down-to-earth, well-adjusted, easy-going, good sense of humor, love to laugh, intelligent, well read, cultured, sports/movie/tv buff, family-oriented, educated, have got good friends, etc. I have a lot of traits that blend well with lots of different people. Personality has never been an issue.

And I've developed myself in other areas too - I've got a nice career that pays well, own a nice condo in aN excellent part of town, just got a new car, etc.

Now saying all this...I've got very limited experience with women - no relationship, hardly any dates, etc. I'm ready. Just don't know what I can do differently to start making connections? I think just doing some of the little things better would help me - but what are they?

Also, what "types" of women would be a fit? Not to sound weird, but I feel like I've got a lot going for me - I just haven't been discovered in the right capacity yet. Sort of like a hidden gem.

Thanks all, sorry for the long post.
So you say you have limited intimate experience with women but haven't been in a relationship, so you have only had one night stands?
 

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idk what your problem is, if what you say is true then you are good looking with good personality and you have:

[x] kisseda girl
[x] had sex with a girl
[x] gone "out"

idk why you are here, are you a troll? or perhaps you just came to gloat, gtfo with your bull****
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You need to develop eye contact longer than her. If you can't hold eye contact longer than her at your first meeting, she will think that you're uninterested or a weak person. First eye contact will tell her whether you're interested or just looking around or a freak.

I used to had problems with looking people's eyes. So I made an effort to solve this issue. I started to look every person in the eyes most of the time but not 100%. I learnt to break away at some time to make them more comfortable with the eye contact. Even when I watch a movie, I practiced looking every character in the eye.

Until one day I realized that a girl is a girl. It doesn't matter if she's pretty or not, I treat them the same. I'm a man. If she can't respect me like one, then she's not worthy of me.

You're the price. You're the Prince while she's just a commoner. If she can have you, then she's a fortunate girl (not the other way around).
 

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Legday said:
idk what your problem is, if what you say is true then you are good looking with good personality and you have:

[x] kisseda girl
[x] had sex with a girl
[x] gone "out"

idk why you are here, are you a troll? or perhaps you just came to gloat, gtfo with your bull****
I doubt he is a troll
 

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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