“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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mr_guido

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Hey guys,
So, there's this girl that I really like. She's cute, smart, witty, and pretty damn charming. Now she's told me more than once that she really likes me, that I'm the nicest guy she's ever met :rolleyes: But yesterday, she sent me an email, just casually, and then she told me that she really likes this other guy. In fact she used the word 'love' when talking about him. So I told her how much I actually liked her but then she just said 'well, I'll have to think about all of this, I'm confused, but you're sooo sweet'. She also said that she still likes me but, what do I do? Now I'm the one who's confused. It seems as though she's interested in this other guy, but she said she still likes me.....anyways, if you guys could give me your thoughts and input I'd greatly appreciate it ;)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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For real? I don't know, because now I'm really confused bro. I mean, she told me she used to go out with this guy, but she still sort of likes him, and she said that they might just be FWB. AND I just opened up another email from her, and it said, "Hey, I'm so sorry about yesterday, I feel like I totally crushed your hopes for me and you. But I want you to know that I still really like you, and you're sooo adorable." So I'm totally confused, I NEED HELP!
 

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The first post places you deeply within the frienzone.

This post clarifies it a bit more, now you just have to find out if she is speaking the truth.

She said "still" tho, so nothing has changed really. And you're adorable.. how cute.

Just meet up with her as you always do and follow your intent.
So far you have not done that, hence being in the friendzone. But you're adorable, so thats alright.

Look at this as a window of opportunity (if its true) and strike hard.
If she does not like you, simply move on. Unless you can be friends with her without liking her.
Swift action.
 

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What girls say and what girls do are two different things. Pay attention to the latter.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Now when she first told me that she still sort of likes this one guy, I told her exactly what you said at the end - that even if she's going to go out with him, I'd still want to be at least friends with her. However, like you said, she said 'I still like you,' which means obviously she still has feelings for me, which she told me when I first saw her. I didn't know that this was just in the friendzone, however, perhaps if I shared some background on this it would make more sense.

It was a party when I first saw her, and back in grade 7 I went to school with her, so I hadn't seen her for a few years so I struck up a conversation with her. About a minute into our convo, she said "we'll be right back" and her and her friend left, giggling away. She even told me I was better looking than I was in grade 7 - sort of a half compliment, half slap in the face but I was over it :) So we've seen each other quite a few more times, and once, when it was just me and her (and unfortunately her friend was with her, but whatever) right before I had to leave, I slowly moved in and made out with her for quite a while, and she obviously liked it because she was right into it, and when we pulled away, her face was bright red and she was all giggly and stuff. Now, was my move too risky? Does this put us farther than the friendzone? After that, she told me that she told her parents that she liked me (good sign I thought :D) which was a week ago. Which brings us to Monday. That's when she told me she still liked this other guy, and thought she would be FWB with him, where I was like :cuss:! So right away, like I said before, 'I don't want to just be pushed out, because I at least want to be friends with you.' But then she sent me that other email which i already told you about, and she seemed like she was more into me than this other dude.

So, when you say
NorwegianDJ said:
Look at this as a window of opportunity (if its true) and strike hard.
If she does not like you, simply move on. Unless you can be friends with her without liking her.
Swift action.
how can I 'strike hard?' Make out? How do I find out if it's true? She must mean it as she's told me lots that she really likes me, anyways, thanks for your help so far, and if you could help me puzzle this next step out that would mean a lot :D
 

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This makes more sense. She potentially could be playing hard to get/****-testing you.
 

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Get real bro.

Your lying to yourself and her. You know you don't want to be friends with her. You want to **** the **** out of her.


For you to strike hard, she has to have a lot of attraction toward you. From what it seems like it, she doesn't.


In the words of Jay-Z, "On to the next one"


You guys met a few times, you guys kissed, gives you a few compliments, and your hooked, HARD. Your treating it like this is the only girl thats gonna **** with you. Theres other girls out there.


I just feel like your putting too much thought and effort into this.
 

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Listen to Norwegian and YoYoRocks, they're basically right about every situation.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think they said it already...but let's illustrate it in statistics.

There are 3+ Billion women on this planet. What are the odds that there are no girls better than her?
 

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I'd say persist hard on this one. By a week you should either be rejected or date her.
If rejected, you got nearly 4000000000 other choices.
Go enjoy.
 

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1. Ask her out. If rejected move to step 3.
2. Make it sexual. Kiss her or whatever ye like.
3. If this fails, move on. They are better options. There ARE better options.

Basically what the lads above said but with handy bullet points!
 

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You're now a second stringer as she's put you on the bench to be called when needed for attention.

Let it go.
 

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YoYoRocks, I'd know if I was lying to myself and trust me, I'm not. Similarily bro, I know for a fact that I'm not lying to her. Now thanks to everyone's advice, I've made up my mind on what to do. So, she hasn't mentioned or made word about this other guy for quite a while now, and has since been really interested in me and has been asking me if I'll ask her to go out with me which makes me think that the only reason that she's become interested in this other guy is because I've been dragging my feet. So I'm thinking that I'll probably go out with her. No, she's not just using me, dude, because I've known her for a few years and she's totally not that type of person. Now here's another problem. Currently I'm at a different school than her, and plus I don't quite have my full driver's licence yet, just my learners' (you need someone over 22 with a valid DL with you - lame for dates). So would it be worth it to 'go out' with her? Next year, however, I will be at the same school as her and by then I'll have my driver's licence, (plus I'll be done restoring my car - a 1969 Ford Mustang Hardtop!) so should I just wait until next year? Should I let her in on my plan? I'm pretty sure that if I waited until next year then our relationship would be that much better. So let me know what you think. Thanks again :D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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First off, what yoyo ment was that you're not following your own intentions by being friends with her, and you know you dont want that.

Stop rationalizing for postponing it. Take the train, schedule a meet up, bus, get a ride, your parents. It doesnt really matter.

Have you even asked her out yet?
And you're thinking of 'our relationship' already?
Take it one step at a time, but that doesnt mean you can wait a few weeks to ask her out.
 

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True enough, I think it was just the way he put it :/ even though it meant well. Anyways, I'm going to ask her out, as I'm seeing her tomorrow, and we'll just go from there. And I think that thinking about 'our relationship' already is in fact a good thing, as I wouldn't just want a quick fling lol. So I'll let you guys know how it goes and what happens....thanks again :)
 

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mr_guido said:
True enough, I think it was just the way he put it :/ even though it meant well. Anyways, I'm going to ask her out, as I'm seeing her tomorrow, and we'll just go from there. And I think that thinking about 'our relationship' already is in fact a good thing, as I wouldn't just want a quick fling lol. So I'll let you guys know how it goes and what happens....thanks again :)

Sorry if it came across in a douche way. But its the reality of situation. You know you don't want to be friends with her and your doing a dishonor to yourself by lying to yourself. You want her to be your girlfriend, you shouldn't be ashamed of it.

Do whatever you feel is best for you. If your delaying it because your afraid of her response and ruining your friendship. And feel like having a bad ass car, nice car btw :rockon: , would improve your chances. The car would improve your chances obviously, but the reasoning behind it is weak.

She already wants you to ask her out. Your trying to bring your value up, so that in your head your worthy of her. Thats just a weak mindset to come from.


Good luck bro!
 

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Hey no problem YoYo ;) I knew where you were coming from, and I totally understand. Thanks, I sure can't wait to have my car all done up! :D Now look. I asked her out, and she said, "I really realllly like you, but I just can't answer that right now. I just hate it that we never get to see each other that much (because we go to different schools.)" I was a little afraid that something like this would happen. But I mean, she's still interested in me, but she doesn't want to say yes because we don't see each other enough. WHAT NOW?
 

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Most probably friendzoned man. If a girl likes you, she will priorotize you. You will always have higher value than whatever she's doing.

Go pursue other chicks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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