"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Where did I go wrong?

DonJuanit0

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I was at a club the week before and met a HB 7.5.

In the club she was dancing all the time and everyone was staring at her, even a guy bought her champagne! Well, before that as soon as I got in the club she came and raised her glass saying, "Marina" (her name) I raised mine touched her on the shoulder and said, "George"! After that she just left, so after a while I went over her table, she stood up and came towards me, I got her from her waist and said: "That was the worst way of meeting I've ever seen", she laughed and she told me she would come over my table after a while, so I left back to my friends! I got her number when she came, made her laugh a bit, had some nice kino on her chick and her waist and then she left the club saying goodnight!

Now, she WAS interested in me, she kept staring me when she was dancing and asked me to dance with her when everyone was looking at her, even the guy who bought her the champagne lol! I had her number and didn't send a message/call or anything for 2 days as I have read here, (she didn't have my number, I asked her to write hers down on my cell and I would communicate with her), after 2 days I send a message saying: "Hey it's George from Sense club, this is my number".

And, that was it! Nothing since then! 3 days after the message I sent, and nothing!

Where did I go wrong?!?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DonJuanit0

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I see... Completely forgot about not texting the first time, lol!
 

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I disagree with the first two responses.

There's nothing terribly wrong with TXTing in that situation. Had he called her, he'd have got the voice mail, especially since she did not have his number, she would not likely pick up to answer a call from a strange number. He might leave a message and will get no response 3 days later either.

What's happening here is that he got a number from a tipsy club chick who was in partying mood that night. She had some interest in him then, but a couple of days later, while she's at work or at uni doing assignments, she's not in that mood anymore. She's not gonna give a toss about him then.

If a chick is keen, she will respond regardless of the way you contact her. I used to be a phone-call only guy, but I've tested TXT, email, Facebook and IM - they all work the same (i.e same flake rate and same success rate).

Most club numbers are rubbish, especially if the girl's been drinking, dancing & attention wh0ring. Always escalate as far as you can on that same night. If you have to get a number (after having planted decent hooks), call her not 2-3 days later, but when she's about to get in the party time mood - usually that's Thursday afternoon / night the next week, and make plan for Friday night or that weekend.

That TXT could be improved though. He basically gave her his number and reintroduced himself. There was nothing for her to respond to.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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JDA70

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It wasn't because you text'd her it's what's you wrote
"Hey it's George from Sense club, this is my number".

You should of just asked her out.
 
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