"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Where did I go wrong?

King Turi

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Okay, so here it is:

This chick has liked me for ages, but she lives with her ex-boyfriend, they live so close to me I literally see them every day basically.

They were going out, but a while ago, they broke up.. a few weeks after they broke up, the chick and I wound up kissing/making out, she wanted to date me then and there but I thought I'd try be a good friend and cool it over with her ex, since they live together and he was getting angry whenever she'd come and see me.

So I cool it over with her ex, he gives me his blessing or whatever, then the next day things are going good except we can't really do anything together at home since he's still got feelings for her and it'd piss him off (not that I care personally, I'm just not a ****).. so we spend a few nights away from home, have sex, all the good stuff.

I take her out a few days later, things are cool, we come home and she goes to her joint (which I'm cool with except her ex lives their) and then no joke, overnight something changed, the next day I didn't see her at all, didn't see her for a few days.

Eventually I get the chance to talk to her and she decides she wants to just take it easy as friends (how can this be when I've already rooted her?)..

Then about a week or so later of virtually no contact, I talk to her and she's decided she wants to try work things out with her ex.

Thing is she obviously had real feelings for me at the time, she told me she's wanted to root me for ages and she's had feelings for me for ages, she also told me she still has feelings for me to this day (most recent conversation was 2 days ago and she still said this), but she doesn't think it's right to act on them.

I don't really understand what happened - her ex was only just coming to terms with it and not getting pissed off all the time, and then she decides she wants to go back with him.

Where did I go wrong?

I wasn't too needy or attached or anything, but I honestly didn't get to spend enough time with her because of her ex getting pissed off all the time.

Does it seem like she was threatened or scared into staying with him since he gets pissed off all the time or what?

EDIT: And is there anything I can do to make her want to pursue her feelings for me?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm sure the other guys will chime in to help you break down the situation, BUT I want to point out one thing:

THIS CHICK SUCKS!!

Where you went truly wrong is putting all your eggs in one basket on a girl you've known for awhile, but don't REALLY know at all. Furthermore, she's still living with the EX, who is now back to being the BF, who will most likely be the EX again in a few weeks. This chick is a train-wreck, keep her as a hit and run at best.

Don't get emotionally attached to dumb-byatches..... THAT, is where you went wrong...



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You we're the revenge, she used you + now she got the ex on his knees begging.

=

Girl wins, you and ex lost :down:

Avoid her, get new women, you'll never have anything serious with her, she's dependant of the ex considering she's living with him and she used you to get back at him. (he isen't her ex for nothing... she had feelings for him, not for you. You we're the easy way to make him jealous)
 

King Turi

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Okay so I took the chick out last night and well I'm glad I didn't get involved.

She cheated on her man (he can't go out, no I.D), and she didn't listen to me when I told her time to leave, it was my responsibility to get her home, I drove her there.

She wound up "walking home" with some random dude, absolutely no doubt in my mind she ****ed him because I know how she is when she's drunk, and tried telling her man I exaggerated the **** out of everything.

I'm gonna have to face her later on today, 'cuz I drove home, told her man what happened and we went and found her eventually, no sign of the dude though.
But yeah, bad news I guess.. still wouldn't mind keeping her on the side though.

But I did get the number of a really hot chick (HB9 as you fellas would say) who wants me to take her out tonight, only thing is her friends gonna be there (HB8).. and from what I hear they are both interested in me.
So not so sure what to do there, bang both of 'em?
I wouldn't wanna ruin their friendship by favouring one over the other haha.. but seriously, not sure what to do, I'm more into one over the other (the one whos number I scored) but yeah...

Any advice here?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What advice do you want?

Advice on the first girl or advice on the other two females?

This post is like an episode of 24 because you seem to have done a lot in such a short period of time.
 

King Turi

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Advice on both, but I'm pretty sure I already know I should avoid her. :(
Feeling wise, well I still want the first girl.. but I know I should move on. :(
 

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Avoid the first girl because she'll turn your life into a nightmare.

For your second situation, let it play out and see what happens. It's a tricky situation but if the possibility of a double (threesome) arises, by all means go for it. Note! In the event that happens, you'll have to avoid becoming exclusive with either one because that'll only lead to conflict you wouldn't want to deal with.
 

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The only thing that you did wrong was going out with this girl after she and her ex broke up. Other than that, you did nothing wrong. Thought the woman might have a feeling for you and probably bring it your attentions, there is nothing to prevent her from having the same feeling for her ex. In fact, her feelings with her ex is much stronger than her feelings for you. You provided her with temporally comfort when she needed it. Now that she realizes her feelings for her ex surpasses that for you, she decided to go back to her ex. Next time you see her, tell her it was not a good idea for she and you to be together and that it is better for her to try to work things with her boyfriend.
 

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amoka, bit late for that one I think.

Faded Image, so in a roundabout way, your saying it's best not to get into a relationship with either of the two friends?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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