John_Taylor
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For you, when do you think its okay to kiss the girl?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
When's it okay to kiss
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
T Money
Senior Don Juan
exactly the moment you grab your balls and say to yourself "grow the fvck up"
:crackup:T Money said:exactly the moment you grab your balls and say to yourself "grow the fvck up"
Dannyrt34
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As soon as you approach the girl for the first time. Let me know how that works.
No just kidding dude, but seriously. Let's say you're out on a date, you start out with lots of kino, teasing her a bit, making lots of jokes. Be really flirty, and something amazing will happen. You should start to notice she will become very comfortable in your presence. After you can tell she's comfy, she'll start to be the one to initiate the kino and stuff, this shows she's interested. I usually go in for the kiss whenever there is a silence in the conversation. Then, you can either just go in for the kiss, or say something like "I'm going to kiss you."
This works at any part of the date, preferrably the first date, you may end up making it awkward if you let it linger for too long. Pay attention to her body language and stuff, you can usually tell when the girl wants a kiss. I noticed a girl wanted a kiss from just the way she was looking at me. Or when you go to take the girl home after the date. When the girl tries to stall you, as in her delaying to leave you, or tries to start up a conversation when you're about to leave, that usually means she wants something before the date ends, and most of the time, they want kissed.
No just kidding dude, but seriously. Let's say you're out on a date, you start out with lots of kino, teasing her a bit, making lots of jokes. Be really flirty, and something amazing will happen. You should start to notice she will become very comfortable in your presence. After you can tell she's comfy, she'll start to be the one to initiate the kino and stuff, this shows she's interested. I usually go in for the kiss whenever there is a silence in the conversation. Then, you can either just go in for the kiss, or say something like "I'm going to kiss you."
This works at any part of the date, preferrably the first date, you may end up making it awkward if you let it linger for too long. Pay attention to her body language and stuff, you can usually tell when the girl wants a kiss. I noticed a girl wanted a kiss from just the way she was looking at me. Or when you go to take the girl home after the date. When the girl tries to stall you, as in her delaying to leave you, or tries to start up a conversation when you're about to leave, that usually means she wants something before the date ends, and most of the time, they want kissed.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Seriously, when you feel that connection with her that you are not "just friends", when you look her in ther eyes and wisper a nice platitiude. Then talk quietly and pause, look her in the eyes, then smootch in....
Never appologize for goinig for a kiss, you are the man and you desire her lips to touch yours.
If she doens't repsond in kind, give her a kiss on the cheek and wish her a good night.
A man never lets the circumstances dicate his mood, be the man and wish her a good night.
*** a good tip.... at the end of a date, ask for a kiss (point to your cheek and say a little kiss goodnight, and when she goes for your cheek, turn in and kiss her on the lips.
Never appologize for goinig for a kiss, you are the man and you desire her lips to touch yours.
If she doens't repsond in kind, give her a kiss on the cheek and wish her a good night.
A man never lets the circumstances dicate his mood, be the man and wish her a good night.
*** a good tip.... at the end of a date, ask for a kiss (point to your cheek and say a little kiss goodnight, and when she goes for your cheek, turn in and kiss her on the lips.
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Actually, in the right situation, it worked okay. Serious............Dannyrt34 said:As soon as you approach the girl for the first time. Let me know how that works.
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oakraiderz2
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After a reasonable amount of time aka the end of the first date...or during it. Well for me at least...thats how i roll.
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When you have escalated up to that.It's a big mistake to sit around and conteplate on how you're gonna kiss her or "waiting" for the right time and stuff like that -and not building any comfort/attraction in the process cause you'll be sitting there anxious .
Yeah like Gloriously says - don't sit around and plan the moment! Some guys says "It's ok to kiss when you drop her off after the first date" - hah! That's like saying "you should take a crap at 3pm every day" - I crap when I'm ready for it! Build the tension and when you got it up to the level it needs to be - kiss her. In clubs you can do this in less than 5 minutes if you had previous initial eye contact. Use subtle kino - her hands and arms, lower back. Lean in while speaking, lean in even more so your foreheads are touching. Touch her nose ever so gently with yours "by mistake" at first, smell her neck and voilá - you'll be kissing in no time and you wont even know how it happened.
Break down her defenses! Or rather, build up her expectations and level of comfort - you'll have a much higher sucess rate than if you go for "the kill" immidiately... Also: Have fun!
Break down her defenses! Or rather, build up her expectations and level of comfort - you'll have a much higher sucess rate than if you go for "the kill" immidiately... Also: Have fun!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
When she'll reciprocate.John_Taylor said:For you, when do you think its okay to kiss the girl?
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When is it not okay?
Distant Light
Master Don Juan
It depends but most of the time its when i get her isolated. But due to calibration sometimes I maybe be playing hard to get and I may not kiss her the first time or if she is real hot I will sometimes hold out.
All about calibration but I'd recommend to try and kiss a girl first time you ever get them isolated.
All about calibration but I'd recommend to try and kiss a girl first time you ever get them isolated.
diablo
Master Don Juan
Good grief.
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