When your too alpha and she won't date you lol

[captain55]

Why don't we ever talk about this on DJ? I'm talking about a chick who thinks your attractive, thinks knows you have \ women all over you and knows you have high social value but won't date you for reasons such as...

1. she knows your a player and probably not gonna stick around
2. you offer her advice and tease her and instead of her finding it playful like most chicks she takes it offensively
3. You grabbed her ass on the first date when you made out with her. Most chicks like a man like that but she is turned off by it.
4. You don't small talk her and spend four hours a day texting her, the only time you really bother with her is when you want to meet up.

I'm dealing with that situation now, every single trait or quality about me that has attracted women in the past seems to turn her off. I like her but at the same time I can't change who I am. Should I just next her?

 

[Yewki]

If you're alpha, the answer is obvious.

Don't waste time on a girl who isn't interested. That includes posting about her online.

 

[captain55]

If you're alpha, the answer is obvious.

Don't waste time on a girl who isn't interested. That includes posting about her online.

What about in the rare situation where the women has certain physical characteristics that you want your offspring to have? I want tall athletic blue eyed kids ...women with those traits don't grow on trees. I want a family..

 

[Killakittie]

What about in the rare situation where the women has certain physical characteristics that you want your offspring to have? I want tall athletic blue eyed kids ...women with those traits don't grow on trees. I want a family..

Then use manipulation to convince her your beta, play the beta part, and as long as she doesn't know the difference she won't be intimidated or put off. You can even maintain frame while exhibiting just enough beta traits so she's comfortable, while keeping the hamster spinning, and her interested with a strong alpha display when needed. Then you can still assert your alpha side in the rest of your life.

 

[bigneil]

The word Alpha means better. Therefore, a man can't be "too alpha" and he can't be "an alpha". That's like saying he is "too better" or "a better".

 

[bigneil]

Most girls like having their ass grabbed on the first date?

What about in the rare situation where the women has certain physical characteristics that you want your offspring to have? I want tall athletic blue eyed kids ...women with those traits don't grow on trees. I want a family..

Why is the situation rare? There are about 100 Million beautiful women. If none of them want you, the problem is you, it's not that you couldn't change the rules of dating along with world history to start a family. Want a tall athletic blue eyed kid? Be a tall athete with blue eyes.

Now it's true that if you are a LOT better looking than her then she won't feel confident enough to start a relationship. But if that were true you wouldn't want her, and you wouldn't see her as a "rare girl who can have good looking children".

 

[pyros]

yes OP this happens...

But the thing is that...when this happens, what is truly going on is that you took the alpha thing to an extreme.
For example, you dont want to look beta so instead of texting her everyday which is bad, you go to the extreme, and you never text her in 12 days straight. Well, repeat this pattern a few times and she will lose interest in you.

Another example: she got a text from her ex in front of you. You dont want to look beta by telling her that you dont like that and start to ask her questions about this guy. So you take the extreme and decide to go no contact for 10 days and you refuse to pick up the phone when she calls you. Well, you wennt to far because you wanted to look 'alpha'.

Or, you've been seing a girl for two months, and you read that she should know that you have other women in your life, so you go the extreme way and you directly tell her that you're seing three other women. She wanted to date you but now...not anymore.

So yes, if you take the alpha thing to extremes is totally counterproductive. And more often than not, guys here fearing to look "too beta" start acting to harsh, cold and odd, which is bad.

In my case, in the last couple of years I've had to calibrate how I behaved because I kind of lost a few girls because I acted too 'alpha'.
You must find the right balance...

 

[Tamura]

I'm talking about a chick who thinks your attractive, [...] but won't date you for reasons such as

[blabla]

Some odd points in here. How do you know what she thinks? As for her reasons did she tell you? Do you believe everything woman say?

She finds you attractive. Does that qualify for an LTR or founding a family? Looks like your sense of humour is not hers. Looks like she is not that much into you, otherwise you'do get away with almost everything.

Sorry man, I really wish you a tall, cute blonde. But let this one go.

 

[Desdinova]

What about in the rare situation where the women has certain physical characteristics that you want your offspring to have? I want tall athletic blue eyed kids

This is NOT the way to find a compatible woman. If you want your kids to look like that, fvck a broad who looks like that and be prepared to pay child support. If you're going to find a woman to keep, you either need to search abroad or seduce your way up a young woman's HSL. With the condition of today's women, you're very unlikely to get everything you want.

 

[nismo-4]

Too much alpha, she runs off.
Too much beta, she uses you for ego boosts, attention, and friendship.
Into you, you get away with damn near anything.
Not into you, your first move is a f**k-up.

 

[blind_one]

2. you offer her advice and tease her and instead of her finding it playful like most chicks she takes it offensively.
Sh!tty sence of humor ? Well thats not my problem
3. You grabbed her ass on the first date when you made out with her. Most chicks like a man like that but she is turned off by it. Prude ? Oh well her loss, you went for what you wanted, acted naturally.
4. You don't small talk her and spend four hours a day texting her, the only time you really bother with her is when you want to meet up. She want you to become her orbiter, well thats not gonna happend.

Bold.

Also remember, just like with everything, nothing is set in stone. What we preach here is solid and based on experience but these are guidelines. ALWAYS CALIBRATE.

 

[BeExcellent]

She is not the only pretty blue-eyed blonde out there. Find yourself a target rich environment and focus on several women who meet your physical criteria. This one sounds rather like a dud.

1 = She is insecure
2 = She is uptight/doesn't appreciate your sense of humor
3 = She is a prude/isn't a sexy woman
4 = She needs too much attention. Refer to number 1.

Never sacrifice your happiness and self worth on the altar of "She's the ONE!" There are many, many more. My ex-husband's buddy always said, "It doesn't matter how pretty she is...someone, somewhere is sick of her shlt."

 

[kronreiff]

You're looking to start a certain type of family with a certain look and a certain type of woman. Lots of money and emotion involved. Do you really think it was wise to bury your knuckles in her azz on the first meeting, considering the importance of what you're looking for? Doing the speed limit in alpha land is sometimes necessary.

 

[Vivacity]

Why don't we ever talk about this on DJ? I'm talking about a chick who thinks your attractive, thinks knows you have \ women all over you and knows you have high social value but won't date you for reasons such as...

1. she knows your a player and probably not gonna stick around - This is a genuine reason for her not showing interest. She does not want to compete with other girls and waste her time with you.
2. you offer her advice and tease her and instead of her finding it playful like most chicks she takes it offensively - She has low or no interest in you.
3. You grabbed her ass on the first date when you made out with her. Most chicks like a man like that but she is turned off by it. - You are needy and desperate as fukc. And you think that girls think you have high social value? Really? In what ways?
4. You don't small talk her and spend four hours a day texting her, the only time you really bother with her is when you want to meet up. - This is how any man who has self-worth and has several options will do, but she has no or low interest in you.

I'm dealing with that situation now, every single trait or quality about me that has attracted women in the past seems to turn her off. I like her but at the same time I can't change who I am. - You like her. You want to start a family with her. But, you can't change who you are. Let me tell you, a family is not for inflexible people. Btw, you can be flexible and still be alpha. Should I just next her?

See bold.

Most girls like having their ass grabbed on the first date?

Why is the situation rare? There are about 100 Million beautiful women. If none of them want you, the problem is you, it's not that you couldn't change the rules of dating along with world history to start a family. Want a tall athletic blue eyed kid? Be a tall athete with blue eyes.

Now it's true that if you are a LOT better looking than her then she won't feel confident enough to start a relationship. But if that were true you wouldn't want her, and you wouldn't see her as a "rare girl who can have good looking children".

Yeh, yeh, we humans date and we have rules of dating.

Please make us aware of the rules of dating so the lesser intellectuals (that includes me) will inform ourselves and follow them.

 

[captain55]

OK Guys the truth is out, this is what she said to me. "We are just at different places. I'm too old to be playing the wild card game and you have too many bad boy tendencies that you haven't grown out of yet. I need stability and consistancy "

Keep in mind she is 26 and I am 23, not exactly a huge age difference. So she won't date me because she knows I have other women after me I guess and knows that I love the chase. **** what a joke, I feel like if this chick was really worth it me having other women after me wouldn't be an issue for her.

 

[captain55]

Also fellas let me be clear I am talking to other women. Every time this chick pushes me to the limit or I start to get frustrated with her I will hang out with my little 23 year old. She's hot, she's easy to meet up with, we have a great time. I'll **** her for two days or so and then go back to pursuing this other chick lol...

 

[LiveYourDream]

Be yourself and do what makes YOU happy. If she values you, she will be back. If not, it does not matter. What matters, is you being you and doing what makes YOU happy.

 

[cola]

OK Guys the truth is out, this is what she said to me. "We are just at different places. I'm too old to be playing the wild card game and you have too many bad boy tendencies that you haven't grown out of yet. I need stability and consistancy "

Keep in mind she is 26 and I am 23, not exactly a huge age difference. So she won't date me because she knows I have other women after me I guess and knows that I love the chase. **** what a joke, I feel like if this chick was really worth it me having other women after me wouldn't be an issue for her.

Translation: I like weak men who get so smitten by my looks they allow me to manipulate them financially, mentally and emotionally just for an occasional smell of my p#ssy every now and then
You are hot, but I think you would be too resistant to this so I'm not gonna date you.

Next please.

 

[bigneil]

The rules of dating: She has to want to have sex with you.

 

[Darth]

As an alpha I can tell you definitely...nobody doesn't "want" to date you. They all want to date you and at least get into your circle. All women dream of that. Women who tell you they want to settle for someone other than an elite guy are lying! They may settle, but they're certainly not going to lose their DESIRE to date someone like you.

I don't mean to be a snob, I'm just telling like it is-nobody doesn't want to associate with an alpha because for no other reason than it benefits them in some way-morally, socially, romantically, etc. etc. etc.