"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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When would you drop a F*buddy?

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I'm still new to the game and trying to make the right choices and stop being a AFC.

So me and this girl are f*ck buddies but we only do it when she has time.
For the rest she only talks to me when she wants something or when she's horny and wants to f*ck.

writing this down makes me feel like i'm the plate she's spinning :cuss: .. wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

I tried for several weeks to meet up with her so we could bang but she was too busy.

so today she sends me a message:

her: Todaaaay!! meet me at 8:30 pm!
me: No, can't today
her: :/
her: whyyy not??
her: please f*ck me
me: why?
her: I'm horny
me: I'm not..
me: maybe later... I'll let u know.
her: :\
her: never mind
her: forget that i even asked.


I don't want to be this girls plate ..and my goal was to turn the tables around.
Am i on the right track?

also another question.. how many of you would not care and still meet up just for the sake of getting laid. (i'm thinking a real Don wouldn't be so desperate for some P*ssy)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Dear StormWolf,
When you have finished cutting off your nose to spite your face,all you will have left is Pride,makes a poor Breakfast and a worse Dinner!
What did you prove?I am sure it took her all of five minutes to organise another Likely Lad,who is not so fussy!
 
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Yes, what the fvck was that exchange all about?
You think blowing her off somehow makes you alpha?
Shyt dude, the fact she only wants to fvck you and nothing more is a dream situation.
The key is, you have to spin plates as well. That way, you won't feel like you're just an afterthought for her - she'll be an afterthought for you.

Just bang her well, treat her like a skank and take her down the dark carnal paths she obviously wants to be taken down.
Yes, she merely sees you as "Mr Rent-a-c0ck", but that's perfect. If you think you'd like to make a housewife out of this ho, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Use her as your personal cvm dumpster and be fvcking other women on the side.
Don't see her more than twice a week and be firm on that.
 

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Agreed, this is a good deal for you OP. Take the low effort lay and save your energy for a chick worth keeping around.

Wel, I guess we should ask.. Is she good in bed?
 

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Oh, and to answer your original question, I would drop a fvck buddy when a) she stopped being fun to fvck or b) she started complicating my life.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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OP is such a beta that just saying no and taking that little tiny bit of control back from a woman made it all worth while for him.

Listen buddy men are scavengers in this world of sex, you get it while the gettins good. Strike while the irons hot, hit it and quit it. Get it? When your buddy calls you to screw... SCREW her! If she's not making you happy elsewhere, then just keep screwing her man! She's obviously not GF material so she lost that chance with you <== take control over your life here not in the bed.
 

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ok, dude you make a mistake here, she wanted you only for sex and you are feeling cheap and used, thing is normally, you only drop a FWB when she wants more then just sex and you don't want anything with her, but because you are ****ing her that don't mean you shouldn't find a better girl.

now if you don't want to **** her anymore for whatever reason, it ok drop her, but you are not a plate, she don't looks like she want anything other then sex from, so again you need to ask this, what is the problem to you on all this?
 

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So in the end it's all about getting laid... doesn't matter how u get it and from
who u get it?

I had this hot girl tell me once if I kiss her feet she would let me be her Boyfriend. I told her to F*ck off.

Was that also a Sh*t move was I too alpha? LoL... I know the goal is to get laid. But damn I should still have some pride after the deed.
 

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Starwolf said:
So in the end it's all about getting laid... doesn't matter how u get it and from
who u get it?

I had this hot girl tell me once if I kiss her feet she would let me be her Boyfriend. I told her to F*ck off.

Was that also a Sh*t move was I too alpha? LoL... I know the goal is to get laid. But damn I should still have some pride after the deed.
No, getting laid is not the *only* goal... But it is one of the goals. I assume from the tone of your posts that you eventually want to be in a healthy relationship with a quality woman. That's a good thing.

If you already know this girl isn't LTR material, then your (overly simplified) choices are a) forget her b) fvck her every so often while you seek out said quality woman. I prefer the latter is it keeps the little head clearer so the big head can be on the lookout for the quality woman.
 

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@ Alvafe and samspade

I understand now.
Thanks
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MOTU said:
No, getting laid is not the *only* goal... But it is one of the goals. I assume from the tone of your posts that you eventually want to be in a healthy relationship with a quality woman. That's a good thing.

If you already know this girl isn't LTR material, then your (overly simplified) choices are a) forget her b) fvck her every so often while you seek out said quality woman. I prefer the latter is it keeps the little head clearer so the big head can be on the lookout for the quality woman.


You would think... that but i'm not looking for a LTR anymore

I've been jumping from LTR to LTR with so so girls I don't really love.

Even this F*ck buddy is just so so..
Guess i still walk around with this LTR mentality.

Reading the comments here is making me realize that I have still a lot to learn.
 

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Yes, what the fvck was that exchange all about?
You think blowing her off somehow makes you alpha?
I don't care for all the game playing, myself.

However, I can definitely see where the OP gets his ideas. "Don't be too available" is a mantra that is repeated here constantly. So he puts that into effect and everybody piles on him. There are a lot of conflicting ideas that are promoted here. There's a time and a place I guess. But again, I just don't care for game playing.
 

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zekko said:
I don't care for all the game playing, myself.

However, I can definitely see where the OP gets his ideas. "Don't be too available" is a mantra that is repeated here constantly. So he puts that into effect and everybody piles on him. There are a lot of conflicting ideas that are promoted here. There's a time and a place I guess. But again, I just don't care for game playing.
Don't care for all the game playing? Heh neither do I bud. I think every one of us here would eventually prefer just being straight up with a girl. Finding a pretty one and just forgetting about game. But that's not the way it works now does it? As soon as she sees you relax, she's out the door riding the next guy gaming her proper. This never ends dude... women=game, saying no game is like saying no to women.
 

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But that's not the way it works now does it? As soon as she sees you relax, she's out the door riding the next guy gaming her proper. This never ends dude... women=game, saying no game is like saying no to women.
Meh, that hasn't really been my experience. To me though, there is a difference between "game" and "game playing". "Game" is simply the way that you deal with women. For me, that consists of keeping a strong frame, a good sense of my own value, and playing the masculine role. I don't think there's anything disingenuous about that.

"Game playing" is manipulative bullsh!t that is incongruent with how you really feel. Like the OP pretending to be busy when he wasn't, for example. That stuff I don't think is really necessary. However, I will never fully put my guard down with a woman, I will never fully trust one. Perhaps that is what you mean by relax. I would not (fully) expose my weak side to a woman, but that is just part of being a man, IMO. When you're a man, you suck it up and do what needs to be done, you don't sit around and cry about things.
 

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When the fück buddy stops fückin, you fückin drop the fück buddy, buddy.

There ya go.
:up:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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